Or maybe Trump is a good businessmen and knows BTC is a good investment? He knows that if the US doesn't buy BTC and continues going into fiat debt, El Salvador will be ahead of them in 10-20 years.

If I find an article of Trump endorsing gold will you say the same about it?

That's not a good argument. Kubrick had just filmed Space Odyssey 2001 and it looked more convincing than the moon landing.

Reported for having multiple accounts and upvoting your posts through them.

You’ve already conceded that the white man walked on the surface of the Moon.

Your ideological position is retarded. Being proud of the NWO government sending freemasonic puppets to the moon (probably didn't happen) is like being proud of "white men" dropping a nuclear bomb over Japan. "But we did it first guys!" It just shows where your allegiance lies. Did you know that white men also made the covid gmo vaccine? Aren't you proud of that?

The founding daddies wouldn't approve that. They presupposed voting in their freemasonic enlightened republic. You complaining about free speech suppression and suggesting democracy be suspended is a contradiction.

This just in: The Deep State began operating in 1971. Why exactly then? Because fuck you, that's why.

Apollo 17 supposedly landed on Dec 1972 but that's because they were still new at conspiring against people going to the moon. The jews upped their game after that and not a single white goy has set foot on the moon and not a single 'Murican flag was planted in the desolate Hollywood studio...I mean moonscape.

Source: a genius with multiple accounts on a conspiracy forum.

This explains Pythagorean Music of the spheres.

WOW! SO, LIKE, IF THERE WAS A SINGLE GLOBAL AUTHORITY THAT SAID “DO NOT GO BACK TO SPACE” WAS A RULE, THEY COULD… MAKE THAT RULE? AND PEOPLE WOULD OBEY IT? BECAUSE THEY HAD THE MOST POWER? WOWIE ZOWIE! I WISH SOMEONE IN THIS CONVERSATION HAD SAID THIS ALREADY!

I love the goalpost move. When did that global authority became a thing? Was it not active in 1969-1970 when the US allegedly sent people to the moon? How come they allowed the Apollo missions and later banned anyone going back?

The more you talk, the more you're digging yourself in a hole.

No. Dipshit. It wasn’t. It was me proving to you that everyone agreed to ban it for the same reason chemical and biological weapons are banned. Because they are banned. You are physically incapable of denying this.

Let's unpack. I wrote:

If they truly did it 60 years ago, we'd see numerous moon bases and satellites all over it by now. Just think of the military superiority that would come from controlling the moon - what, you think that the Pentagon, Russia and China would spare resources to get the upper hand?

You answered sarcastically:

also it makes no sense not to weaponize space because every country regularly uses chemical and biological weapons on each other and there’s absolutely no way anyone would simply agree to ban them from use because… uh…

Then I countered that:

International law has banned a lot of things that are currently going on, do you realize that? There is no stupid ban or law that will prevent a world power to do as it pleases if it's geopolitically beneficial and viable to do so. This is what power means. This includes not only setting military bases anywhere, but also use of biological and nuclear weapons or committing genocide.

And you still didn't get it. The point I made was that no one could forbid a global power to go and set moon bases. Even if everyone agrees to ban this, it could still be violated just like the other instances of international law violations that are happening. Only a complete tool like yourself thinks that banning something prevents it from happening. Who is going to enforce the ban, genius? If the US decides to build a military base as part of their Full Spectrum Dominance strategy, who is gonna stop them? Pakistan? It's not that hard - those who hold the most power can make or break the rules. Tell me you're not that stupid and you get this at least.

I'm sorry I doubted you may be a fedboy - you're clearly a retard and a troll.

??? tradition as the source of scripture?

Scripture is a liturgical document. It didn't grow on a tree. It was written by many divinely inspired authors within the tradition and compiled and preserved by the Church that you deny, so that it can arrive comfortably in your hands 2000 years later. Early Christians didn't have the Bible - if understand this you can no longer be protestant because that leads to Sola Scriptura being false.

Listen to this short excerpt on the subject: https://youtu.be/LZDaB5wT40E?t=4417

My understanding is shared by others, it's not just me.

Except when it's not and your believes contradict. No way to determine who's correct because everyone has equal authority and is equally inspired by the Spirit, or at least you have to assume that. You realize historically protestants brutally killed each other for centuries over such disagreements, right?

It's bad to deny the power of the Holy Spirit. It's possible to "have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof". So simply don't deny the transformative powers that scripture clearly lays out.

Strawman. I never denied the power of the Holy Spirit who normatively works through the Church. Christ teachus us that there is no salvation outside of His Church (the Ark of salvation, the Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ). This is completely scriptural and orthodox.

Christianity is lived, communal, sacramental and participatory. It's not an abstract intellectual idea or a book you read on your own. You only know Christ by participating in His uncreated divine energies and being part of His Church (by baptism and eating His body and drinking His blood - the eucharist).

It's cool you're so enthusiastic about NASA and freemasonry. Your heart is in the right place.

I get your point and I don't expect them to jump and shout or cry, but they seem outright depressed. One would expect more joy and pride in their demeanor. They've supposedly managed the feat of the century or even of the millenium.

When was going to the moon and setting bases there banned exactly?

It wasn’t. Keep your strawmen to yourself.

Lol you degenerate liar. This:

also it makes no sense not to weaponize space because every country regularly uses chemical and biological weapons on each other and there’s absolutely no way anyone would simply agree to ban them from use because… uh…

was your stupid argument and I refuted it - International law has banned a lot of things that are currently going on, do you realize that? There is no stupid ban or law that will prevent a world power to do as it pleases if it's geopolitically beneficial and viable to do so. This is what power means. This includes not only setting military bases anywhere, but also use of biological and nuclear weapons or committing genocide.

Thanks for admitting you don’t understand economics. You just made my argument for me.

Please enlighten me then. Or do you believe making assertions is an argument you moron?

adult men

you mean adult freemasons

Ok, freemasons walked the surface of the moon. Is that cool with you or would you require proof of that?

Did the world powers ban the use of nuclear weapons too? Or did international law (which is a joke) ban invading independent countries? How's that going on?

When was going to the moon and setting bases there banned exactly? Do you have the document? Would "never" be the correct answer? Oh but of course, they didn't come back to the moon because they've lost the technology and don't have the money they did back then, even though they literally printed 3 trillions in two weeks for a fake pandemic.

Makes total sense. You're a certified retard dude. But at least you're a true 'Murican patriotic retard, which is the good kind. Imagine writing in a conspiracy forum while feeling pride that a satanic Deep State organization like NASA supposedly did some Crowleyan ritual by sending a phallic shaped object, crewed by degenerate lying freemasons to the moon.

There are two possible options: you're either an utterly demented soyjack or a fedboy.

Martin Luther wrote: "Therefore know, my dear Christian, that next to the Devil you have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement an enemy than a real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew." Yes, know your enemy.

Fast forward a couple of centuries and most protestant churches are pro-skittles, liberal and zionist. In the end the Reformation did exactly what it was brought about to do.

It's Winston.

Gold is king, true. But it's still controlled by your overlords and you're a fool if you believe otherwise.

Mining gold is a thing dude. But aside from that they literally set the prices and can control how much gold there is in circulation in local markets. The prices of gold are set by the The London Bullion Market Association (LBMA) and COMEX (New York Mercantile Exchange). There's a reason why the Rothschilds backed the gold standard historically - it's as much their thing as is the Fed.

What you said about BTC, actually applies to gold - it is controlled by London and Wall Str.

I am not able to speak as I wish to speak, but have to bring it down to a level where perhaps something might resonate with you.

But why is communicating that a problem? Aren't we all just projections of the mind of God? There shouldn't be meaningful distinctions then because "me" and "you" is just an illusion, right? Whatever you know and understand also applies to me. Why do you insist on talking as if you are not me and I am not you? You're playing into the illusion. Our whole argument is basically God arguing with himself, isn't that true in your worldview?

Rothschild doesn't control the gold because all the gold you see in society is controlled by us.

What would that gold be? Personal jewelry and gold coins? What about the giant hoards of gold bars the governments and central banks hold? Or the inherited gold of the aristocratic families of the past? Our combined stashes pale in comparison.

He also cannot make any gold.

They own the mines and it's not from yesterday. Guess what the Boar wars were all about. There's a lot of gold still being mined all over the world and guess who owns the companies? It's no different than with oil and gas. Gold is a natural resource after all and we don't have the right to extract it, even if we owned the land.

Yet somehow this logic doesn't apply to BTC?

The blockchain is anonymous and encrypted - it's a giant hash code basically (673.58 GB). The IRS can investigate who's the owner of the wallets but that's not something that can be done by regular folks I guess.

1. There are ways to buy/sell or trade with BTC completely anonymously without divulging any personal data and without the government getting notified.
2. They will have a cut but still it would be much less as a percentage of the total compared to traditional assets like fiat, gold and stocks. Here are actual stats:

A recent report by Gemini (in conjunction with Glassnode) estimates that about 30.9% of the circulating Bitcoin supply is held by so-called “centralised treasuries” — that includes governments, corporates, ETFs and large custodial entities.

Another data source suggests that among public/private companies + funds etc., ~17.8% of “21 million” total supply is held by 251 such entities (including ETFs, companies, countries) as of mid-Oct 2025.

In the U.S. spot Bitcoin ETFs context, institutional investors reportedly hold around 20% of all such ETFs’ shares.

So about 20-30% of BTC is in the hands of governments and financial corporations.

3. That's just not true. BTC has been adopted as legal tender by El Salvador and Central African Republic. BTC is used by millions for transactions in the US, India, Indonesia, Nigeria, Russia, Ukraine, Vietnam, Brazil, etc. There is a lot of BTC trading going on and it will only get more. As for the conversion rate, the trading will be done in Satoshi (one hundred millionth BTC, currently $1).

4. That's hard to determine because addresses are not always personal wallets. Some addresses are held by exchanges and custodians. When you adjust for custodial wallets, lost supply, and dormant holdings, it's not as bad as it appears looking at the raw stats. But sure, I agree there is vulnerability to speculation by whales. This is true for any money or asset and BTC is no exception here.

1. Do you have proof of this?

2. How does that change who controls gold?

If someone says you have 7 fingers and another says 8, is that enough to make you doubt the understanding God gave you?

That's sophistry and false equivalence. Do you mean to tell me that complex, multilayered contex-dependent scriptural text, that is the result of thousands of years of tradition is in the same category as looking at how many fingers are there? I know you're not that stupid to believe this but you're being dishonest instead of admitting interpretation is a thing.

Is the Holy Spirit so inconsequential to you that He can't provide correct interpretation to a mind searching out for truth?

So God provided you personally with the correct interpretation? What about the other millions of Christians who believe in God, search the truth and hold believes that are contradictory to yours? Did the Holy Spirit gave them a separate contradictory revelation? How many truths are there? What makes you believe you are special in your apprehension of the truth if everyone else also claims to be enlightened through the Holy Spirit?

In fact, how were you able to carry on this conversation without first consulting with a Pope or high priest? How can you conserve with family members without a priestly intermediary analyzing the meaning of every sentence?

You have no understanding of what you're criticizing. Of course I have a spiritual father who serves as an authority and who got his authority through the apostolic succession within the Church. I also read the Church fathers and the saints who provide me with the correct interpretation. Is it a bad thing that I don't put all my trust in my fallen and limited mind, that is susceptible to delusion and error and seek the teachings of the Church that is guided by the Spirit and that will keep the faith to the end of time?