I guess I don't understand what you mean by "legit."

For me, "Q is legit" would mean: *there was an insider who posted on a forum website as "Q" who had special knowledge of events occurring within the government, including a widespread investigation of Democrats that would result in some kind of prosecution that would happen in one big event called the Storm."

If all that were true, then Q is legit. If Q is not an insider with special knowledge etc,etc, then Q is something not legit whether a larp or a disinformation campaign.

I don't know how anyone can think Q is legit. We know where it came from. It can't possibly be legit.

That's my point. It doesn't say to not get vaccinated at all.

Here it is:

“The QAnon movement really is a movement that spun out of your digital soldiers,” Wood told Flynn during the call.

“Maybe, I don’t know that,” Flynn responded.

“I find it total nonsense,” Flynn continued. “And I think it’s a disinformation campaign created by the left and the types of people that can create something like that are the kinds of people that we trained with certain skills in the CIA, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what it was.”

Is that like laughing through the lonely tears? I can help you with some strategies that seem to work with the ladies.

But really, how IS the weather in Tel Aviv?

I doubt that's why he banned Epstein. Afterall, he was known to walk in on teen aged girls who were changing for his Miss Teen contests.

And the girls reported he'd walk in on them when they were naked, changing.

Don't knock rules for radicals. Use them.

Why ban someone you disagree with?

He said he'd date her if he wasn't married and, oh yeah, if she weren't his daughter.

He said she's got a great body.

When asked what he and she had in common, he said he was thinking "sex."

He has said a lot of creepy things about Ivanka.

Yep.

Why do you all always say that? What are you afraid of?

Do you always ask for proof when you see memes, or just memes you disagree with? I doubt Trump said this. But we know he said that he'd date his own daughter.

On Stern:

“She’s actually always been very voluptuous,” Trump responds. “She’s tall, she’s almost 6 feet tall and she’s been, she’s an amazing beauty.”

Here's a whole list.

You seem out of place here. Have you lost your way?

Interesting. What do you make of Michael Flynn saying that Q is a CIA disinformation psyop?

We live in the Matrix and those are just repeating image files.

This is obviously fake.

He should be happy he got vaccinated. He'd probably die if he hadn't.

Constant vomiting of fake news.

Here's what the author of the study says:

“That conclusion is misleading and inaccurate,” Subramanian told me of Horowitz’s Blaze column over email. “This paper supports vaccination as an important strategy for reducing infection and transmission, along with hand-washing, mask-wearing, and physical distancing.”

The actual paper states:

The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.**

The paper emphasizes that the vaccines may be substantially less effective in a shorter period of time than previously thought, but acknowledges that they do result in less likelihood of hospitalization:

Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated [10].

The paper concludes:

In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.

You should distrust anyone who is misrepresenting the findings of this paper.

I'm only on page 7 of 169 pages and it is full of misinformation and just made up shit. I'll read it, it's fascinating, but I have other things to do right now. I'll pick up when I can. I can't keep commenting on every single thing although I am tempted to. But you have to be careful of stuff like this. There are plenty of expose's of what the US has done around the world, some of them by insiders coming clean, some just by historians. There is no need to claim some sort of uber group pulling the strings. We elect elites who follow the goals and objectives of the Power Elite. You should read "The Power Elite" by C. Wright Mills. There's the conspiracy. No need for secret societies, it's right out in the open.

Thanks to the sworn testimony of Guerzoni, Italy and Europe but not the U.S. learned that Kissinger was behind the death of Aldo Moro.

This isn't what happened. Moro's wife stated that an American official had threatened Moro that if he continued to build ties with the PCI, there would be a price to pay. Moro's wife didn't know the American was Kissinger. Guerzoni confirmed that the person that Moro had met with was Kissinger. Guerzoni did not say that Kissinger was behind the murder of Moro.

But I would not be surprised if Kissinger and the US had some role in the assassination of Moro, as I've said. It would follow a pattern, well-established, of the US opposing politicians who were "soft" on Communism. For example, in Guatemala, Arbenz was overthrown for allowing Communists in his government, even though he himself wasn't a communist. Allende in Chile was murdered. So a threat from Kissinger, clearly could be seen as an actual physical threat or as a political one. But to say that Guerzoni said in sworn testimony that Kissinger was behind the murder is false. That isn't what happened.

EDIT:

Kissinger not only terrified Moro, but carried through on his threats to "eliminate" Moro if he did not give up his plan to bring economic and industrial progress to Italy.

Now he has "eliminate" in quotes. The literal quote was, ""either change his political line or pay dearly for it." Nothing about eliminating Moro. Also, Guerzoni only confirmed that it was Kissinger who delivered that message, not what the message was.

So far this is replete with falsehood and unsupported assertions. Do you, @Zap_Powerz have any evidence to support any of these links to secret societies controlling everything behind the scenes?

Notice here how Coleman mixes factual information with assertions that have no factual basis:

Various groups had combined under the name of socialism to bring about the downfall of several Italian governments since the Club of Rome was established in 1968.

The Club of Rome is known mostly for its economic predictions that the global system is headed for collapse by the mid-21st century. Some might consider this "communist" but I certainly don't know how that would be. It does call for reforms within the capitalist system in order to save it. The formation of the Club of Rome has nothing to do with "various groups" combining "under the name of socialism."

It's factual information mixed with fantasy.

Among these are the Black Nobility of Venice and Genoa, P2 Masonry and the Red Brigades, all working for the same goals. Police investigators in Rome working on the Red BrigadesAldo Moro case came across the names of several very prominent Italian families working closely with this terrorist group. The police also discovered evidence that in at least a dozen cases, these powerful and prominent families had allowed their homes and/or property to be used as safe houses for Red Brigades cells.

This statement is very similar to saying that 9/11 was backed by prominent Saudi families, which it was. Yes, and so? That prominent Italian families backed the Red Brigade or Saudi royal families backed Al Qaida doesn't lead to the belief that there is one organization pulling the strings on all these groups. These groups act in their interests. Sometimes interests converge, like the IRA and the PLO. But there is no Committee of 300 behind all of this.

In my 1982 expose of this heinous crime, I demonstrated that Aldo Moro, a loyal member of the Christian Democrat Party, was murdered by assassins controlled by P2 Masonry with the object of bringing Italy into line with Club of Rome orders to deindustrialize the country and considerably reduce its population.

It's hard to assess this because I don't have his 1982 expose.

Moro's plans to stabilize Italy through full employment and industrial and political peace would have strengthened Catholic opposition to Communism and made the destabilization of the Middle East--a prime goal--that much harder.

Moro was forming a coalition government WITH the Italian Communist Party so this doesn't make sense. But destabilizing the Middle East does make sense.

From the foregoing it becomes clear just how far ahead the conspirators plan. They do not think in terms of a Five Year Plan. One needs to go back to Weishaupt's statements about the early Catholic Church to understand what was involved in the murder of Aldo Moro. Moro's death removed the roadblocks to the plans to destabilize Italy, and as we now know, enabled conspiracy plans for the Middle East to be carried out in the Gulf War 14 years later.

No, there is no connection between Weishaupt, the Illuminati, and events occurring in Italy in the 1970s.

Italy was chosen as a test-target by the Committee of 300.

Evidence? There isn't any. If the US was in any way directly involved in the murder of Moro, it was due to the same US obsession with opposing communism that led to the overthrows of Salvador Allende, Jacobo Arbenz, the obscene support for the mass murder in Indonesia, the Vietnam War, the Korean War, the assassination of Patrice Lumumba, the support for death squads in El Salvador, etc etc. It's about US interests, and specifically, the interests of elite US capitalists. The same capitalists that fund these rightwing groups trying to overthrow US democracy and replace it with Christian Dominionism. And again, read Coleman's introduction, he says it right there.

This is intriguing:

It will be recalled that Prime Minister Moro was kidnaped by the Red Brigades in 1978 and subsequently brutally shot to death. It was at the trial of members of the Red Brigades that several of them testified to the fact that they knew of high-level U.S. involvement in the plot to kill Moro. When threatening Moro, Kissinger was obviously not carrying out U.S. foreign policy, but rather acting according to instructions received from the Club of Rome, the foreign-policy arm of the Committee of 3OO.

It's important here to note that Moro was openly friendly to the Italian Communist Party (PCI) and was even forming a government that included the PCI. The PCI, however, had joined with other European communist parties in breaking away from Soviet leadership of the communist movement and creating their own movement, known then as eurocommunism. The assassination of Moro ended the PCI's growing influence in Italian politics.

I found this interesting 1982 (contemporaneous) article:

At one point in her testimony, Moro referred to alleged threats her husband had received in the United States with regard to his long-term, open-door policy toward the powerful Italian Communists.

Coleman wrote:

The witness who delivered the bombshell in open court was a close associate of Moro's, Gorrado Guerzoni.

But the contemporaneous Post article states:

Moro's close aide, Corrado Guerzoni, testified about a harsh exchange on this subject between Moro and then-secretary of state Henry A. Kissinger, in Washington in 1974 when Moro was foreign minister. But he did not say anything about explicit threats.

So it appears that it was Moro's widow who made the claim that the US threatened Moro. I 100% believe that the US threatened Moro. This was the same era that saw the US complicit in the overthrow of Salvador Allende and the installing of dictator Agosto Pinochet in Chile. But again, these were efforts to stop the growing influence of elected left-wing politicians such as the PCI or Salvador Allende's Unity Party (I think that's what it was). Was the Red Brigade an arm of US policy? Maybe, I wouldn't doubt it. The US backed Pol Pot, for example.

But none of that demonstrates any organization above the US government itself. Kissinger and Nixon were anti-communist. They supported the overthrow of Communist influenced governments. So did Eisenhower, so did Kennedy (less so), so did LBJ. See what happened in Indonesia.

All these things are true. But there is no Committee of 300 pulling the strings. It's just the US government opposing the spread of communism.

EDIT:

Those famous bastions of freedom with a compelling right to know, the Washington Post and the New York Times, did not think it important to even print a single line of Guerzoni's testimony.

Well, at least the Post seems to have described it. I'm looking for some version of it, a transcript or something. I don't read Italian, though (German and Spanish, yes).