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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is it the same world where the wealthy criminals have significantly better accommodations, if they even serve time at all?

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

the rich do not get special treatment

Lol what world are you living in

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hello! I pasted a previous comment I made just to bump the topic again. I'm eager to continue this conversation if you've got the time!

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

Correct, which you admitted both verbally - and more importantly - through your actions.

Then you are ignoring what I am telling you. I have explicitly stated several times that I am not offended by your comment, I am simply pointing out your lack of respect that your are showing.

Saying I verbally admitted this is also an example of a lie. You would be unable to pull a quote of me saying that I felt disrespected, because there isn't one, so please do well to stay honest.

No, there isn't.

Yes, there is. Hence the reason I asked the question you chose to avoid answering. Your lack of response to it does concern me a bit.

Did you miss the question that I asked in the previous comment, or did you choose to ignore it? I asked because your answer helps to illustrate the point I'm making.

I’ll repeat it here:

if you are walking down the street and you see someone across the street walking with their family, do you have the same doubt that they may not be a human being, and in fact be a literal robotic being that was built in a factory, as you do with me here over text?

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

On the contrary...

Oh very much so. I think in real life you'd stumble constantly over your words in attempts to look smart, when in reality you say nothing.

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm speaking of this definition:

STUPID - adjective - having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

And what is banning...parents taking pics of their babies going to achieve?

Bro...what?

Why are you so upset that you can't look at sexual pics of kids?

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Modeler43 0 points ago +1 / -1

What you aren't accounting for is the oman empire bringing twelve to the worlds of today.

You see, when Nero came, there was only one way we could find out the stack of things as yet to come when they have souped into the backend. Nero knew that this couldn't be forced unto everyone, but he had to educate them to make them see. This is how it fell.

Now, there was no telling how this would manifest itself into today, but we've become lacking in our foresite, and it seems you may have found difficulty.

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did you miss the question that I asked in the previous comment, or did you choose to ignore it? I asked because your answer helps to illustrate the point I'm making.

I’ll repeat it here:

if you are walking down the street and you see someone across the street walking with their family, do you have the same doubt that they may not be a human being, and in fact be a literal robotic being that was built in a factory, as you do with me here over text?

Correct, which you admitted both verbally - and more importantly - through your actions.

Then you are ignoring what I am telling you. I have explicitly stated several times that I am not offended by your comment, I am simply pointing out your lack of respect that your are showing.

Saying I verbally admitted this is also an example of a lie. You would be unable to pull a quote of me saying that I felt disrespected, because there isn't one, so please do well to stay honest.

No, there isn't.

Yes, there is. Hence the reason I asked the question you chose to avoid answering. Your lack of response to it does concern me a bit.

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

Please read my previous comment if you're able

I did read your previous comment. You said I chose to feel disrespected instead of feeling nothing. I am informing you that I did not feel disrespected, I simply realized your attempt to do so, as well as distract from the topic at hand.

You, again, choose to stick to these methods instead of engaging in honest conversation, and you seem to also forget what I've already told you.

But you are ignoring mine. There is no reason or benefit in switching mediums.

There is a clear and distinct benefit, which is that it is easier to determine if the person you are engaging with is a real human being or not. While a AI can produce text written in complete sentences, a bot cannot mimic the actions, voice, and image of a human nearly as well, and especially not in real-time

If you continue to doubt whether or not I am a human that you're speaking with, then video or audio chat is a superior medium, so that in our conversations then we don't have to focus on it at all.

Let me try something else with you: if you are walking down the street and you see someone across the street walking with their family, do you have the same doubt that they may not be a human being, and in fact be a literal robotic being that was built in a factory, as you do with me here over text?

(Please, respectfully, answer the question as is. I want to hopefully see you answer a question earnestly without interpreting the question in a metaphorical sense or change the words around, as you had done before in my Turing test question)

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes necessarily.

Again, no. I'll give you an example that might make it more clear:

If my young nephew calls me a "doo doo brain," I can observe that he is making an attempt to insult/disrespect me. However, I am mature and level-headed enough to not be so offended by a childish insult. As a person who wants to see him grow though, I may correct him on his behavior and point out that it does not lead to productive conversation.

Basically, this is how I'm treating this interaction. I'm sensing your disrespect for the conversation and for me, and I'm simply calling it out. That doesn't mean I am offended by what you say, but I am taking note of the lack of respect you are showing.

If you cannot avoid bot like tendencies and engage in productive conversation here, then you can't do it anywhere else or in any other medium for the same reasons.

You've seem to still to misunderstand my point.

I'm telling you that it would be easier for you to determine whether or not I am a human being over video/audio, since you say you are unable to determine it here over text. That, by your own admission, makes this the inferior medium to determine whether or not I am human.

your guess as to wether or not i am a human...MAY be...correct, but is certainly not reality.

You're saying that something that is true is not reality?

(based largely on my claim that i am, and your gullible belief in those unvalidated claims)

Incorrect, not largely based off of your claims. There is significantly more evidence that shows that you are human.

You have done nothing but repeat yourself for damn near 20 comments

I would love to not have to repeat myself! However you continue to misunderstand my main points based on your responses, so I unfortunately have to try and re-explain them in hopes that you will finally understand. Or, in this case...

If you don't like being accused and/or compared to the actions of bots - my advice is to quite the internet 10-20 years ago.

Speaking of repeating one's self :)

I've already addressed this but I will address it again since you insist on repeating it. I hope you don't just repeat your earlier responses to it though:

It doesn't matter to me if captcha exists. I understand the merit of it. It is not the same as a human being repeatedly accusing me of potentially being an AI when I am attempting to have an honest conversation with them.

This, here, is the only instance I have come across this in all my years on the internet, just with you. I'm not going to quit the internet just because of your actions, sorry to say.

Hopefully, you understand now so that I don't have to just repeat myself again.

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

disrespected IS offended

Not necessarily, and not in this case. I can understand when I'm being disrespected, but I don't have to feel offended or take offense to it. I ignored it for some time in other conversations we had, but unfortunately it was no use, because you insisted on going about that method in lieu of directly addressing the points.

if you can't avoid bot like tendencies here - you can't do it anywhere else for the same reasons.

My point is it would be easier for you to determine, in the instance of video or audio chat, whether or not I am a bot because it is more difficult for AI/bots to pass the Turing test in that medium.

It is more the "100%" certainty that is so foolish

Of course it isn't, because the reality is that you are.

To suggest that reality is not reality, is a bit trite.

If you know that you are frustrating and are NOT a troll (which actively seek to frustrate), then simply stop.

My actions are not intended to frustrate, but to guide you to be a better conversational partner so that we can better engage on topics that we each found more interesting!

If you insist on questioning whether or not I'm human, I would have no choice but to address that point head on.

Get back on a meaningful topic and engage in productive conversation

I don't think productive conversation is possible if you continue to insist that my status as a human is under question. The whole reason I am focused on this topic is so that we can put that manner to bed.

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't tell me. Show me, through your actions.

The very reason I have to tell you is because you've been misinterpreting the actions I have already shown you. I am simply, politely, correcting you.

If you don't want to understand it, or the reasoning behind it (which i've also shared, thoroughly) - then i can't (and wouldn't, if i could!) force you.

I understand your argument, I am refuting it with a counter, by stating that interaction with a bot is significantly easier to discern when the conversation is over audio, video, or better still, in person, something that is quite common knowledge. Obviosuly, I think the latter option will likely have logistical issues, which is why the next best option is video.

This is why I had asked if you believe a robot could pass the Turing test in a conversation with you if had over video (a question you still have not answered). I was making sure whether I'm correct in understanding you have the (extremely uncommon and surprising) belief that you think that it's easier to discern whether a person is human over text, rather video, or any other medium

Because blindly believing the voices you encounter - wether online or in real life is foolish.

I'm not blindly believing anything. The evidence is clear, that you are 100% a human being. To doubt that, at this stage, is foolish.

When i say you are foolish for believing...

If you need to choose your words more carefully, be more mindful to do so. Your actions are showing to be one that are attacking my character rather than the idea. It's clear that the idea is not worth attacking, because you an I both know that you are a human being. It's inreasonable for you to go after that idea.

However, you still do attack my character imilar to how you in your repeated suggestions that "my behavior is bot-like." It's attacking me, often in efforts to either distract or avoid the topic at hand, but ultimately to not address the idea that I present to you.

This is the entire reason why I have chosen to direct our attention to this tendency of yours, in hopes that you would realize it and learn to be more earnest in having an honest discussion of ideas.

Perhaps naturally, and out of frustration.

Understandable that you might be frustrated! I'm simply attempting to appease frustration, and lack of clarity, by suggesting we move to a medium where we can more intentional and honest dialogue.

It becomes much easier to answer questions directly, and to not drop off the topic when direct questions are asked by one person to the other.

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Modeler43 1 point ago +1 / -0

People will recognize when there are injustices that are happening. When innocent lives are being taken as a result of some political power struggle, there is no sense rooting for the persons continuing the conflict.

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