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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure. Here is a video from p-brane explaining how the horizon forms at our eye level, and how it is a result of perspective.

It's a perspective horizon not a hijacked "curvature" horizon.

https://youtu.be/epFuMxnd5Kk

I am given you a link to a video as there are limits to my expertise and experience on the subject of how the horizon works, and how it rises to eye level. So if you are interested, check it out.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, that is inline with the flat earth model.

I do not remember how far a person has to away from you before the horizon blocks your view of him. Make your own observations, gather your own data on this. Here is a experiment I suggest you try and do: go to a big lake, bring a friend with an boat. Ask your friend to travel away from you on the boat, while you stay on the shore line and watch them with your naked eye. Then when you no longer can see the them, use a optical zoom device to see if you can bring the boat back into view. Make a note how far away the boat was when you lost visual contact with it. Good luck.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes. A telescope would make your visual horizon appear further away, making you able to see things that are further away, than what you can with the naked eye.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once the rope reaches your visual horizon, you will not see the rope extend beyond that point, as it has converged with the ground rising to your eye level. If you leave your perspective, and say move upward in height, you can seek the rope extend even further. This is all in orders with the flat earth model.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

From your perspective, it is not a clear line of sight.

An object far enough away gets visually blocked due to how perspective works. Once the horizon has risen to eye level, that is the extent of the range of what you can see, at eye level.

I made this drawing for you to show how your vision gets physically blocked.

https://ibb.co/mhyv2Jt

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Reply limit reached, so I guess I answer here.

Visually, vision of the moon is blocked by the horizon. Physically, it is not blocked. As I said, get an optical zoom device, and you can increase you vision range.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have not claimed that the laser hits the ground.

I can make you another drawing, to demonstrate this principal:

https://ibb.co/bKtGg9k

I do not know where the disconnect is, so hopefully this will make you understand how the horizon rises to eye level, as all parallel lines moving away from you converges at a single point.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am saying that a laser from a top of a mountain, going over the ground, will converge at the horizon as it gets far enough away, from the perspective of the person a top the mountain. The person at the mountain will not be able to distinguish between where the ground is and where the laser is, as the laser gets farther and farther away, that is due to how perspective works. All parallel lines going away from you will converge at a single point. To see further, you need to increase your height, or get a optical zoom device, and from your perspective, the horizon will form further away from you, and you will be able to track where the laser is going for a longer time, and over a greater distance.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

The ground appears to rise, yes. From the perspective of the person looking into the horizon, the ground will appear to rise to eye level, that is how perspective works. It seems like you grasps this concept, so well done. If you want to call it an optical illusion, that is fine by me, I personally call it perspective though.

Based on this concept, you can understand that the higher you get, the farther can you see over our plain earth. But even on Mount Everest a horizon will form at eye level, and 100% optical.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here is a orthographic view from a top that is 1 mile high, how the horizon rises to eye level .

FROM 1 MILE HIGH ORTHOGRAPHIC VIEW OF THE HORIZON RISING TO EYE LEVEL-

https://youtu.be/XOIMSEb6ZYk

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your calculations is based on a side view, not from the perspective of the person.

All parallel lines going away from you will converge to a point in the distance, where the ground meets the sky, or appears to. The horizon will rise to eye level at about 3 miles away from you, when standing on the ground. This is how perspective works.

Here is a video of p-brane explaining this to you. Watch it if you want:

THE SUN SETS JUST FINE ON A FLAT EARTH - THE MATHS ARE WRONG perspective

https://youtu.be/W0Gx1vD1CRE

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Distance that we are given from the north pole to the south pole is 12400 miles, so you can times that with two. So the diameter of the known flat earth, is around 24800 miles. While the height of the moon would be at around 3000 miles above the earth. Good luck with the checking.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once the moon gets far enough away, and you watch it at, say a 0.01 degree angel, then our view of it will be blocked by literally anything between us and where the moon would appear to us in the distance.

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Allas8 1 point ago +1 / -0

Made another drawing for you, showing that the further away something gets, the lower in the sky will it appear to us. This is due to how perspective works:

https://ibb.co/YkLSkq7

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Allas8 2 points ago +2 / -0

To cold outside for me to walk around without shoes. I remember though that the best Brazilian soccer players used to be brought up not playing with shoes, and that was given as an explanation of why their technical skills was so far beyond that of those from Europe. Today some of the modern soccer shoes have gotten very thin, although you still need shoes to provide better grip on grass. That being what this conspiracy brings to my mind.

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Allas8 3 points ago +3 / -0

No problem. Still learning how to take pictures of the celestial bodies. I think the shutter speed was around 6 seconds, so a lot of light was gathered.

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Allas8 2 points ago +2 / -0

To get a picture of Jupiter with a telescope like that, you need to process the picture. Also I am pretty sure that he took it out of focus, and with hardly any shutter speed, as the moons can not be seen, or appear very dim.

https://youtu.be/lS2_7FfkAcU?t=96

From the same channel, it is a processed image of Jupiter. Edit: And not even an image, but a video, that he took a screenshot from.

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Allas8 10 points ago +10 / -0

At least they are not using a pepperoni this time.

This is what Jupiter actually looks like. Took it from my own backyard:

https://media.scored.co/post/caAqU9MedC6P.png

Very bright.

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Allas8 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same channel also has this video:

Azimuthal Equidistant Peak Wave - FE

https://youtu.be/JebYsj_e0EE

Seems to be showing a animation of the wave pattern of the Gulf stream. I have not seen this one before though.

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