I have questions related to these quotes between you two:
What's the punishment if a Gentile transgresses the Noahide Laws? DEATH!!!
Correct, and according to the Noahide laws that can only be tried by a court of justice established by Noahides i.e. people of all nations together. So no Jew can cause their definition of idolatry to prevail without agreement by the court of all nations.
What if there is a 'league of nations' possibly 10 Kingdoms united in a new world order that do decree their version of Noahide laws?
I think that could fit in with end times prophecy inasmuch as the laws as Christians understand them would be bastardized in the technical sense as without the Father, who Christians know as God.
Edit: should have added u/Third-Eye-Vision (please let me know if this chime goes thru because it's an edit)
It'd be just like any of several prior empires that criminalized the covenant people, declaring themselves the representatives of humanity (i.e. of Noahides). Nothing new.
Yes, I think the future holds an empire persecuting Christianity both directly and indirectly just as we see presently given the literal persecution in ~60 countries and the indirect persecution we permit in the West via legal and cultural manipulation. Christians are already being beheaded regularly, no need for LaHaye and Jenkins to mistranslate anything. The goal of consolidating power free from Christian influence so that Christians can be further persecuted is always part of the same war.
I agree with what you've said and I think there is much common ground between what we are saying and what u/Third-Eye-Vision is saying about the Noahide laws being used against those that know God.
I acknowledge the ongoing persecution while also anticipating a persecution beyond levels that Nero or Nimrod could have imagined.
All things increase at varying levels depending upon their position, God's Kingdom is of course greater than the evils that stand against it.
A greater persecution would specifically mean the laws, though pretended to be Noahide (human), are actually inhuman and thus not Noahide at all.
People blur the whole problem of bad law over history as if the worst category of bad law should be called "Talmudic Noahide Law" and as if that's a valid description of it. If it's bad law it doesn't matter if we call it the United States Statutes or anything, it's still bad law. If a giant tyrannical empire promulgates bad law, the whiners who complain that the Jews contributed a Noahide slice to it, as if that's the only salient point, will be steamrolled in their ignorance of the whole of the problem; same as with other such problems.
If a giant tyrannical empire promulgates bad law, the whiners who complain that the Jews contributed a Noahide slice to it, as if that's the only salient point, will be steamrolled in their ignorance of the whole of the problem; same as with other such problems.
I have questions related to these quotes between you two:
What if there is a 'league of nations' possibly 10 Kingdoms united in a new world order that do decree their version of Noahide laws?
I think that could fit in with end times prophecy inasmuch as the laws as Christians understand them would be bastardized in the technical sense as without the Father, who Christians know as God.
Edit: should have added u/Third-Eye-Vision (please let me know if this chime goes thru because it's an edit)
It'd be just like any of several prior empires that criminalized the covenant people, declaring themselves the representatives of humanity (i.e. of Noahides). Nothing new.
Yes, I think the future holds an empire persecuting Christianity both directly and indirectly just as we see presently given the literal persecution in ~60 countries and the indirect persecution we permit in the West via legal and cultural manipulation. Christians are already being beheaded regularly, no need for LaHaye and Jenkins to mistranslate anything. The goal of consolidating power free from Christian influence so that Christians can be further persecuted is always part of the same war.
I agree with what you've said and I think there is much common ground between what we are saying and what u/Third-Eye-Vision is saying about the Noahide laws being used against those that know God.
I acknowledge the ongoing persecution while also anticipating a persecution beyond levels that Nero or Nimrod could have imagined.
All things increase at varying levels depending upon their position, God's Kingdom is of course greater than the evils that stand against it.
A greater persecution would specifically mean the laws, though pretended to be Noahide (human), are actually inhuman and thus not Noahide at all.
People blur the whole problem of bad law over history as if the worst category of bad law should be called "Talmudic Noahide Law" and as if that's a valid description of it. If it's bad law it doesn't matter if we call it the United States Statutes or anything, it's still bad law. If a giant tyrannical empire promulgates bad law, the whiners who complain that the Jews contributed a Noahide slice to it, as if that's the only salient point, will be steamrolled in their ignorance of the whole of the problem; same as with other such problems.
Don't miss the forest for the trees kinda stuff.