So i was wondering about how both the [fake and gay] and the [obvious NASA psyops] could coordinate together.
Basic suppositions: Flat Earth is a decoy, NASA is fully controlled.
If Both the official NASA narrative and the controlled FE opposition move to obfuscate reality, what is that reality?
My best bet accounting for the grand schemes of things would be this:
NASA is the main conduit for black budget and it is mainly involved in turning space into a stage to deceive everyone about earth, while only requiring a fraction of said budget to do so and channeling the rest to DUMBs, various secret experiments and technology research.
The earth is either just bigger, or, the shape calculations are purposefully flawed (saw some funny stuff in there? but not an expert) to hide it's not oblated at the poles, but somewhere near the equator, so as to hide the land beyond the poles from public view and mind.
OK, that is fair. I guess to me, everything insinuating there is some massive conspiracy concealing the true shape of the earth is "flat earth adjacent." This would include things like the radius being substantially larger than the value claimed. I took you saying "FE is a psyop" to mean that the various influencers are a psyop probably to discredit investigators, but that there is something to the theory.
The reason you (and others) have concluded that FE is a psyop is that the arguments are all wrong. At some point we are confronted with considering the conclusion "there is nothing wrong with the claims about the shape of the earth." Even if there were a conspiracy to promote stupid FE claims to discredit anyone seriously examining geodesy / astronomy / NASA, the "real people investigating this" would still be on the internet and easily findable / sharable. There would be a forum somewhere of all the serious scientists actually disputing the shape of the earth.
I'm not just making this up. Look at "climate denial" for example. There are extraordinarily smart people disputing mainstream climate change. You can read them all over the internet. They have managed to get articles published in Nature to be retracted. That means they are real scientists no matter what the progressive dumbasses say.
Not to mention the ultimate success, which was "holocaust denial."
Has anything like that ever happened in FE or any adjacent group disputing the shape of the earth? Is there a single thing anywhere on the internet that I can read disputing mainstream geodesy / astronomy that even approximates the quality of Climate Audit, Watts Up With That, Codoh, The Holocaust Handbooks? People may think I am trolling all the FE people, but this is what I am asking. Show me the Stephen McIntyre or Anthony Watts or Judith Curry for "globe earth skepticism." Show me the Germar Rudolph or David Irving.
If there is not, and year after year after year this theory never presents itself, at some point people should consider "maybe physics is right about the shape of the earth." It is crazy to me that this never seems to happen. Also, it is possible that NASA lies about its missions even though the shape of the earth is as claimed. The modern shape of the earth vastly predates NASA. They had absolutely nothing to do with it, other than photographing it and making the measurements a bit more precise. So "NASA is sketchy" is not something I would even consider here, because when it comes to the globe it is totally irrelevant.
Well it's not the way i see it but i can see why you would choose that approach.
About the FE psyop though, you said it well yourself:
And this seems to me the whole point of having FE around for TPTB. Even if i had some provable data to justify my theory in this regard, i'd already be the 'FE adjacent guy' anyway to most people.
This is not to add anything to my simple bet, no data is no data. i am only using it now as an example to show you what i mean with how the FE relates to the wider infowar.
Yes, I understand that. This is why I always ask people why they believe in FE or any other "adjacent" thing. It is also why I will watch the various "influencers" to see their arguments. There was a time I would have by default believed in global warming, the holocaust, and that Hitler was a really bad guy. I changed my views on all of these things because people made factual arguments that forced me to change.
I guess what I'm saying is FE and other similar things about the shape of the earth are perpetually in this state of "this is the biggest lie of all but you gotta watch out for all the obvious disinfo trying to make us look stupid." I would be sympathetic to that if I was then directed to the person / people who had the really good arguments. But after years of every big name in this space eventually being turned into a shill, I have to assume that there is no "Stephen McIntyre" or "Germar Rudolf" in this space.
I will also acknowledge that it is possible that NASA lies, even about the moon landing, while the earth is in fact as described in geodesy books. I personally am not big into NASA conspiracies, but those are a lot more believable. For the shape of the earth to be substantially wrong, enormous sectors of society would have to be in on the conspiracy. Military, transportation, various branches of science, cartography, the navigation apps on your phone. It is an extraordinary claim, and at a minimum the people who claim this need to provide a workable map and a rough explanation for basic solar system observations (day, night, moon cycles, seasons, tides, apparent planet paths, etc.).