Thanks me! I was the only submission and I know this was already posted but I'm hoping for (edit: more) discussion.
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ASZf9HHcP/featured-documentary-submission-/c
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ASZfDpgZt/am-i-a-documentary-on-ai-conscio/c
A note on AI consciousness: Before anyone gets to discussing AI consciousness, it should be understood that no one understands human consciousness, even in its fundamental aspect.
That's a strong claim, but the demonstration of it comes from anesthesiology. First note that even the "engineering" of it is so poorly understood that a dedicated specialist is required to administer anesthesia during surgery.
Wikipedia's article is excruciatingly long but manages to avoid the simplest of characterizations of the science of anesthesia: scientists know that it works, but they do not know at all how it works.
In about a decade since I first learned this, I have only heard it mentioned one other time. It's yet another one of those "informational black holes" that the entire culture gets steered around.
Think of it like this: if you discover that putting your cell phone in a microwave means that it won't ring when you call it, that is no demonstration that you understand anything at all about the science and technology of either cell phones or microwaves.
Even in that trivial case, virtually everyone would jump to the wrong conclusion unless they already knew otherwise. Not all microwaves block all cell phone signals.
Bonus: The "History" section of that Wikipedia page mentions that the first demonstration of anesthesia took place at Massachusetts General Hospital and involved a dentist named William Morton and a surgeon named John Warren. Next to the text is a painting by Robert C. Hinckley illustrating the momentous event.
Well, surprise or maybe not surprise: MA General is in Boston, next to Salem. Morton, Warren, and even Hinckley are all Salem Witch names.
Double Bonus: I haven't covered the Mortons before so it might not be immediately recognizable, but I'll just mention as one example the 22nd Vice President of the United States, Levi Parsons Morton. Yes, those Parsons.
Great point. I hear a lot of people ruling out the idea of ai being conscious which I think is silly if we can't even define it.
Nothing suprises me anymore and I'm glad you're so knowledgeable about weird family connections.
I think there's a useful meta-lesson from this incident:
There's a universal subconscious assumption that "They" are at all times malicious and that everything "They" do is inimical towards the rest of the human race. Thus, researchers find something bad and then look for who to pin it on. This methodology is entirely unreliable and often misleading.
There's nothing inherently bad about the use of anesthesia, so far as I know. Nothing unhealthful or immoral. (I mean, within reason. Don't go sniffing ether, kids!) So what's going on here.
My guess would be that the Salem Witches realized that the discovery and rollout of anesthetics was right around the corner. Therefore, They needed to be the ones rolling it out and everyone was going to hear first what They had to say about it.
Sure, yes, Their control over the science is long-term inimical but is in such a fashion as no one is ever going to detect Their influence. It's been almost two centuries and no ones has, right?
A story old as time, weaponization. It can be useful and it can also be deadly, so 'they' need to corrupt it for 'their' uses.
I think more people realize it then we know, they just don't know how to name it or where exactly it comes from, but it's ancient, that much I know.
Nature offers only one weapon in-between offense/defense...free will of choice. It's choosing to consent to any suggestion which permits another to weaponize it.
Corruption isn't need...it's ignoring need for want which corrupts. Plurality (they) isn't needed but wanted...choosing want corrupts ones perception of singularity (theos).
One needs singularity; one wants plurality.