Who do you think Joseph Stalin was, and why did he speak only Yiddish at home?
Stalin was Georgian, he was a student of Russian Orthodox Christian academy in Tbilisi (and it was completely impossible for Jews) in late 1880s. He didn't know Yddish and didn't speak it at home.
see grave of Stalin’s mother adorned with Jewish kiddush cup and shroud, a unique icon for a buried Jew.
His mother was farmers wife, and it was she who directed young Stalin into Orthodox Cristian academy. She regret that her son didn't become Orthodox priest to the last days. Her name was Ekaterine Geladze. Typical Geargian surname with name as Empess Ekaterine had who throw out Jews from Russia to outskirts. There is nothing Jewish on her grave at famous Cristian cemetry in Tbilisi, where many famous people of Russian Empire of Georgian origin are buried. The whole cemetry is on the territory of Georgian Orthodox Church of Saint David (in the name of Georgian Christian saint) where can't be any place for any Jew. Jew will not be allowed to be buried there and no Jew will ever want be buried near Christian church.
How about Lazar Kaganovich the jewish cobbler who killed millions of Ukrainians. In 1933, he helped enforce grain quotas in Ukraine which contributed to the Holodomor famine. But, he continue murdering people even after 1934.
Stalin had no any chance to sneak into Jewsih kagal of bolsheviks, because he was not a Jew, so he somehow subdue Kaganovich into full obedience, Through Kaganovich Stalin get into Jewish plans and got a chance to completely destroy them. Most Jewish bolsheviks was caught and exterminated through Kaganovich. Including Trotsky. Did you ever heard that you have to keep your friend close, but enemies closer?
And again this "Holodomor" bullshit... There was no any "Ukrainian Holodomor", just like there never was any "Holocaust". It is a pure western invention of 1990s. Like "Ukraine state" itself.
Where did you get all this bullshit, really? Is that's what in your history books? If so, my condolenses.
From the other side - well, it's kind of good if western elites studied history by that garbage. :) With such "knowledge" they have no any chance to do anything with us.
And again this "Holodomor" bullshit... There was no any "Ukrainian Holodomor"... Where did you get all this bullshit, really? Is that's what in your history books? If so, my condolenses
I'm surprised you ask this question. Holodomor may or may not have happened, but it's not what you're stating. I also take offence to the use of "condolences" here. Totally uncalled for.
There are so many links regarding Holodomor, I don't even know where to start. How about one of my non-favourites, Wikipedia?
I know a lot about that part of the world. Many things were artificially created, books were burned, history was re-written and people were lied to. If you want to have a decent discussion about this that's fine. But you stick to nonsense like "Holodomor bullshit" and "condolences" I have no interest in talking to you any further.
There is no any sense in discussion about political fantasies created by western propaganda.
There are so many links regarding Holodomor, I don't even know where to start.
Start, f.e. from finding out what "Ukraine" means in any slavic language. Or from the true meaning of the word "deal" in Russian (its the most funny thing in current western politics, meanwhile).
Citing western propaganda resources can't help here. In the same sources, suddenly, homosexualism is not a mental disease too.
Everything you know about Russia, you know from its worst enemies. Just like anything you know about China, Iran, India and so on. Just like anything you know about most part of the world.
There is no any sense in discussion about political fantasies created by western propaganda
It's not what I said. I told you I know a lot about that part of the world. I also know quite a bit about Western propaganda. I said a discussion...
Start, f.e. from finding out what "Ukraine" means in any slavic language
I know what that means. The accepted definition of the word "Ukraine" in the Slavic language is "region, principality, the land around". I would say the term “Ukraine” is the old Russian word “Okraina” (periphery).
The Ukrainian coat of arms (the Trident), which dates back to the 10th century. It has origins in Staraya Ladoga, a locality in the Leningrad Oblast (Northern Russia). The Coat of arms of the city of Staraya Ladoga is the coat of arms of the family Rurikovich. It's probably unpleasant for Ukrainians, but it's a fact. The Ukrainian modern coat of arms is a stylized coat of arms of the Rurikovich family. Those who founded cities in the north of Russia, and then went to conquer the southern territories, around 800 AD. So it turns out that Staraya Ladoga is the mother of all Ukrainian cities.
Citing western propaganda resources
I never said I believe what Western propaganda pushes. But, I also know what Soviet propaganda pushed as well, and it's not that much different. When you twist the truth you end up with a lie. No matter how you look at it.
Everything you know about Russia, you know from its worst enemies. Just like anything you know about China, Iran, India
You have no idea what I know... you should ask questions, not make stupid comments.
Again, my condolenses.
Mind boggling, and I just warned you to stop this nonsense. Why do you keep going?
. The accepted definition of the word "Ukraine" in the Slavic language is"region, principality, the land around". I would say the term “Ukraine” is the old Russian word “Okraina” (periphery).
It is literally "outskirts". Now tell me, in what universe any nation will ever name their country Outskirts and themselves as Outskirters? You don't need to be a genius to understand that it is a totally external invention of some arrogant dumbfucks who didn't even try to understand what that means.
All that thing is a total LARP, where everything was created by those who are not very bright.
Holodomor is 1990s invention loosely based on the famine that struck mostly Volga and Don regilons on the south of Russia in 1930s, thanks to Jewish attempts to fix food shortages due to the previous crop-failure. This famine touched Dnepr regions too, but much less than Volga and Don. Western regions of modern Ukraine wasm't even in Ukrainian SSR borders at the time, so there was no any famine in a half of modern Ukraine state.
This famine was in no way specific to Ukrainian SSR, and was stopped exactly when Stalin finally took over the Jewsih trotskists and began to exterminate them in mid-1930s.
There was no any famines on the territory controlled by USSR since then, even diring WWII. Stalin was a total control freak, but not like those you could think about, He literally studied everything as deep as possible on the matter he want to control, he got into all science and everything regarding the matter. Metallurgy, architecture, agriculture, etc. - he doesn't rely on experts or whatever, he really know thing in deep and understand how it works. It was Stalin who build the whole system of food production and logistics in the giant country, and Russia still use it in slightly modified form according to modern realities. There is still state food reserve storages, state controlled logistics, state research and prediction institutes that guarantee food security for the country. There was attempt to destroy that system after the USSR fall, but hopefully it didn't pass the point of no-retrun. However, western politicians still believe that their 1990s plans to destroy Russian food secirity worked and that is why they are still imposing their stupid and senseless sanctions in the hope to provoke yet another famine in Russia making propaganda about how there is nothing in groceries here.
So, blaming "Ukrainian Holodomor" on the Stalin is just a yet another stupid thing invented in some western "think tank" for propaganda. There was no such thing as "Ukrainian Holodomor", and Stalin was the one who not only stopped it, and punished perpetuatros (some of them flee to USA and now their offsprings with same surnames create disasters in US), but did everything to make it impossible in future.
So it turns out that Staraya Ladoga is the mother of all Ukrainian cities.
There is no such thing as "Ukrainian cities". All cities in modern Ukraine was build by Russians, Poles or Hungarians. there was no such thing as "Ukrainian" until Lenin created Ukrainian SSR and officially adopted "Ukrainian" as a name for inhabitants of Ukrainian SSR, so creating kind of Ukrainian identity. Before, "Ukrainian" was kind of humorous nickname, exactly like "Outskirter". People who lived there was officially Malorussians before and accounted themselves Russians.
"Ukrainian language" was invented by bored Russian aristocrat Kotlarevsky just for lulz in 1791, for his remake of Greek Eneide. He took some peasant slang words, invented other half and wrote an humorous version of Eneide using thispeasant and invented words, attaching "Vocabulary of Ukrainian Language" in the end. This was the first place where "Ukrainian Language" was ever mentioned. Then, it was forgotten until Revolution. In reality, there was Malorussian dialect of Russian language, among Belorussian and Velikorussian dialects. After 1991, it was decided that Soviet version of "Ukrainian Language" was not different enough from Russian, so in few years thousands of words in Soviet Ukrainian was replaced with new ones, from any language, with one criteria - this word shouldn't sound like Russian. But the idiots who did that didn't know that languages is different not only by words used, but also by grammar. So, instead of a new languge they got bastardised Russian. Even those who create Klingon language for StarTrek series made a much better job.
Ukraine is a giant LARP created by Russia enemies from nowhere.
Stalin was Georgian, he was a student of Russian Orthodox Christian academy in Tbilisi (and it was completely impossible for Jews) in late 1880s. He didn't know Yddish and didn't speak it at home.
His mother was farmers wife, and it was she who directed young Stalin into Orthodox Cristian academy. She regret that her son didn't become Orthodox priest to the last days. Her name was Ekaterine Geladze. Typical Geargian surname with name as Empess Ekaterine had who throw out Jews from Russia to outskirts. There is nothing Jewish on her grave at famous Cristian cemetry in Tbilisi, where many famous people of Russian Empire of Georgian origin are buried. The whole cemetry is on the territory of Georgian Orthodox Church of Saint David (in the name of Georgian Christian saint) where can't be any place for any Jew. Jew will not be allowed to be buried there and no Jew will ever want be buried near Christian church.
Stalin had no any chance to sneak into Jewsih kagal of bolsheviks, because he was not a Jew, so he somehow subdue Kaganovich into full obedience, Through Kaganovich Stalin get into Jewish plans and got a chance to completely destroy them. Most Jewish bolsheviks was caught and exterminated through Kaganovich. Including Trotsky. Did you ever heard that you have to keep your friend close, but enemies closer?
And again this "Holodomor" bullshit... There was no any "Ukrainian Holodomor", just like there never was any "Holocaust". It is a pure western invention of 1990s. Like "Ukraine state" itself.
Where did you get all this bullshit, really? Is that's what in your history books? If so, my condolenses.
From the other side - well, it's kind of good if western elites studied history by that garbage. :) With such "knowledge" they have no any chance to do anything with us.
I'm surprised you ask this question. Holodomor may or may not have happened, but it's not what you're stating. I also take offence to the use of "condolences" here. Totally uncalled for.
There are so many links regarding Holodomor, I don't even know where to start. How about one of my non-favourites, Wikipedia?
I know a lot about that part of the world. Many things were artificially created, books were burned, history was re-written and people were lied to. If you want to have a decent discussion about this that's fine. But you stick to nonsense like "Holodomor bullshit" and "condolences" I have no interest in talking to you any further.
There is no any sense in discussion about political fantasies created by western propaganda.
Start, f.e. from finding out what "Ukraine" means in any slavic language. Or from the true meaning of the word "deal" in Russian (its the most funny thing in current western politics, meanwhile).
Citing western propaganda resources can't help here. In the same sources, suddenly, homosexualism is not a mental disease too.
Everything you know about Russia, you know from its worst enemies. Just like anything you know about China, Iran, India and so on. Just like anything you know about most part of the world.
Again, my condolenses.
It's not what I said. I told you I know a lot about that part of the world. I also know quite a bit about Western propaganda. I said a discussion...
I know what that means. The accepted definition of the word "Ukraine" in the Slavic language is "region, principality, the land around". I would say the term “Ukraine” is the old Russian word “Okraina” (periphery).
The Ukrainian coat of arms (the Trident), which dates back to the 10th century. It has origins in Staraya Ladoga, a locality in the Leningrad Oblast (Northern Russia). The Coat of arms of the city of Staraya Ladoga is the coat of arms of the family Rurikovich. It's probably unpleasant for Ukrainians, but it's a fact. The Ukrainian modern coat of arms is a stylized coat of arms of the Rurikovich family. Those who founded cities in the north of Russia, and then went to conquer the southern territories, around 800 AD. So it turns out that Staraya Ladoga is the mother of all Ukrainian cities.
I never said I believe what Western propaganda pushes. But, I also know what Soviet propaganda pushed as well, and it's not that much different. When you twist the truth you end up with a lie. No matter how you look at it.
You have no idea what I know... you should ask questions, not make stupid comments.
Mind boggling, and I just warned you to stop this nonsense. Why do you keep going?
. The accepted definition of the word "Ukraine" in the Slavic language is"region, principality, the land around". I would say the term “Ukraine” is the old Russian word “Okraina” (periphery).
It is literally "outskirts". Now tell me, in what universe any nation will ever name their country Outskirts and themselves as Outskirters? You don't need to be a genius to understand that it is a totally external invention of some arrogant dumbfucks who didn't even try to understand what that means.
All that thing is a total LARP, where everything was created by those who are not very bright.
Holodomor is 1990s invention loosely based on the famine that struck mostly Volga and Don regilons on the south of Russia in 1930s, thanks to Jewish attempts to fix food shortages due to the previous crop-failure. This famine touched Dnepr regions too, but much less than Volga and Don. Western regions of modern Ukraine wasm't even in Ukrainian SSR borders at the time, so there was no any famine in a half of modern Ukraine state.
This famine was in no way specific to Ukrainian SSR, and was stopped exactly when Stalin finally took over the Jewsih trotskists and began to exterminate them in mid-1930s.
There was no any famines on the territory controlled by USSR since then, even diring WWII. Stalin was a total control freak, but not like those you could think about, He literally studied everything as deep as possible on the matter he want to control, he got into all science and everything regarding the matter. Metallurgy, architecture, agriculture, etc. - he doesn't rely on experts or whatever, he really know thing in deep and understand how it works. It was Stalin who build the whole system of food production and logistics in the giant country, and Russia still use it in slightly modified form according to modern realities. There is still state food reserve storages, state controlled logistics, state research and prediction institutes that guarantee food security for the country. There was attempt to destroy that system after the USSR fall, but hopefully it didn't pass the point of no-retrun. However, western politicians still believe that their 1990s plans to destroy Russian food secirity worked and that is why they are still imposing their stupid and senseless sanctions in the hope to provoke yet another famine in Russia making propaganda about how there is nothing in groceries here.
So, blaming "Ukrainian Holodomor" on the Stalin is just a yet another stupid thing invented in some western "think tank" for propaganda. There was no such thing as "Ukrainian Holodomor", and Stalin was the one who not only stopped it, and punished perpetuatros (some of them flee to USA and now their offsprings with same surnames create disasters in US), but did everything to make it impossible in future.
There is no such thing as "Ukrainian cities". All cities in modern Ukraine was build by Russians, Poles or Hungarians. there was no such thing as "Ukrainian" until Lenin created Ukrainian SSR and officially adopted "Ukrainian" as a name for inhabitants of Ukrainian SSR, so creating kind of Ukrainian identity. Before, "Ukrainian" was kind of humorous nickname, exactly like "Outskirter". People who lived there was officially Malorussians before and accounted themselves Russians. "Ukrainian language" was invented by bored Russian aristocrat Kotlarevsky just for lulz in 1791, for his remake of Greek Eneide. He took some peasant slang words, invented other half and wrote an humorous version of Eneide using thispeasant and invented words, attaching "Vocabulary of Ukrainian Language" in the end. This was the first place where "Ukrainian Language" was ever mentioned. Then, it was forgotten until Revolution. In reality, there was Malorussian dialect of Russian language, among Belorussian and Velikorussian dialects. After 1991, it was decided that Soviet version of "Ukrainian Language" was not different enough from Russian, so in few years thousands of words in Soviet Ukrainian was replaced with new ones, from any language, with one criteria - this word shouldn't sound like Russian. But the idiots who did that didn't know that languages is different not only by words used, but also by grammar. So, instead of a new languge they got bastardised Russian. Even those who create Klingon language for StarTrek series made a much better job.
Ukraine is a giant LARP created by Russia enemies from nowhere.