They finally stopped running this psyop but here were the purposes of them. If they had succeeded, it would have made all our lives much harder because everyone would think of us as dumb ass flat earthers.
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If people think of us as dumb flat earthers, they would not believe them when we tell them the Gov is involved in conspiracy against the People.
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Deep State live underground in caverns. They don't want us to know there are good and bad civilizations in inner Earth. The bad ones are Reptilians running very evil and Satanic things underground. The good ones are good people who are so advanced, they were just waiting for us to catch up to the civilized level and we are there now so they want to connect.
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The more bs people believe in, the harder life gets and they want us to have a hard life.
Not exactly clear. The Bible contains two creation stories. They are found in chapters 1 and 2 of the Book of Genesis. The two stories are not saying the “same thing.” They are two distinct stories of creation, both in terms of content and order. They cannot be harmonized. You don't believe me? maybe you can believe David Bokovoy. He holds a PhD in Hebrew Bible and the Ancient Near East and an MA in Jewish Studies both from Brandeis University. Here is a link to an article he wrote: https://www.bibleodyssey.org/articles/the-two-creations-in-genesis/
I suggest we don't discuss Kant any longer. Like I said "if it makes sense", obviously it doesn't.
https://gotquestions.org/two-Creation-accounts.html
Assuming that is true, God still did create us. Atheists are still wrong. Athiests contradict their own story again and again, so they change their plastic worldview because the facts prove Creation, not their worldview.
Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. 3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. 6 Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7 God made the expanse, and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so. 8 God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
Genesis 2:
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven. 5 Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground. 6 But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8 The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9 Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.”
24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.
So you agree. Ok.
I don't know what you want me to agree to. You seem to be a religious person, do you follow Judaism, Christianity or both? I'm not an atheist, but I could have a different view than you when it comes to Creation. Let me ask you something... what if the world we live in today is not the actual creation of a supreme God, but it is a counterfeit creation instead. By a lesser God.
The biblical model you talk about presents creation as divine command. God speaks. Reality obeys. End of story. But what if there is something far more profound and threatening to orthodox control. What if the world was not created through command? What if it emanates reality the way fire radiates heat naturally, continuously without effort or decision? This distinction between emanation and creation completely overturns everything you've been taught about the relationship between divine consciousness and physical reality. In the biblical framework, there's a clear separation. God creates, humanity obeys. The creator remains forever separate from the created, maintaining absolute authority over subjects who can never bridge that gap. But the concept of emanation changes everything.
Think of it as an infinite wellspring that naturally overflows, not because it decides to and then stops, but because abundance is its very nature. Just as the sun doesn't choose to shine, it simply radiates light as an expression of what it is. What if Creation continuously expresses itself through successive levels of reality. Each level emerges from the previous one, carrying the essence of the source while manifesting new aspects of infinite consciousness. And what if we choose to ignore everything I have just said, and instead we are happy living in a simulation? this is what I meant by "And with our minds we create our own universe". Some would say we are prisoners of our own mind, which is actually the same thing.
God exists.
All of the Bible is correct. We either know parts of it are true or we don't know (besides that the Bible said it) how or why they are true of false, but we definitely know none of it got anything wrong. Fact: Science keeps catching up to the Bible. Over and over.
Jesus died bodily and rose on the third day.
Faith is God's free Gift, and Faith saves. We can't work for salvation like some employee grinding at a job for money. Works salvation is depressing and false. Ask God for Faith if you haven't!
The earth being ~6K years old.
God really did make the universe in 6 days just like the Bible says.
All organisms exist because of being born from the organism of their kind, not because of being the evolved descendants of some germs on rocks.
God made life, it didn't and couldn't happen naturally.
Everyone has one. Unless they're babies or something. Everyone puts something first.
Biblical Christianity.
Anyone could.
Ask away. Truth invites questions. Charlie Kirk was asked many of them.
That has less evidence for it than the real truth.
How is that theory "profound" at all? Oh wow, wow we were made by a cheap Temu "god" instead of the Biblical God!!. Nope, that actually cheapens Creation and undermines our value. Implies evil and death are normal, and not aberrations caused by human sin. And what does it threaten, other than the person believing it?
I'm not Orthodox nor catholic.
So you're just trying to claim the Creation is eternal, which is logically impossible and which proves Romans 1:20-25 right. "Believe and serve everything and anything and anyone BUT the Biblical God!!" is how humanity has operated since after Adam and Eve rebelled. Thank God for saving at least some of us! And your theory implies the Bible is wrong.
And if your theory were true, we should be seeing matter being created, not conserved.
Too bad it's factually untrue and has holes and can't be backed as solidly as the Bible.
That's about being content then. Nothing is being created. If you are content to eat ice cream, you're not creating ice cream.
And nothing is being made, in fact we are just keeping ourselves locked. If you put a chain on yourself, you're not generating the chain. It already existed.
Which Bible? the Bible before 1684 contained 80 books and current editions only have 66, and we have to wonder what exact purpose the removal of 14 books would serve if what you're saying "all of it is correct"?
What does that exactly mean? which denomination: Catholicism, Protestant, Anglican/Episcopal, Assembly of God, Lutheran, Methodist or Pentecostal.
Would you mind listing these holes.
Been proposed variously by gnostics. In other posts here I've pointed out they only do that because they don't see the current creation as good because they don't understand it's good for creatures to have limited free will to good or evil. I can explain this at any length desired (and I get accused of doing so).
Looks the same to me, honestly. In the spiritual level, to command is to emanate. When I write a book, it would be equivalent to say I emanate the universe or I command the universe.
If you'd like to remove consciousness from the creator so as to "get him off the hook" for allowing evil, the problems are that most gnostic systems admit the central Monad is Consciousness, and that human consciousness had to come from somewhere. We are not the highest consciousness and we have a duty to find out what that is, because it is also the source of right and wrong.
If you'd like to remove "separation" from Christianity, I'd agree with you that more Christians should accept Paul's quotation of Epimenides that in him we live and move and are. That's a panentheism that is personal rather than the impersonal version usually proposed. There is no separation but Creator and creature are connected on every level.
You are right that providence is ongoing creation, that creation should not be regarded as ended. I don't see a need for successive levels of reality as they are undocumented and unexperienced, and tend to separate humanity from the Monad. The reality I live in is one, it can be conceived of as both reality and simulation at once. My experience of it is imperfect, but in itself it is perfect and needs no layering (though it does have differentiation among realms). I grow in experiencing all its realms and aspects, refining my experience as I go, and I am always happy for what is being revealed and poured into experience, while always patiently awaiting what more is to come. It sounds like your concern is for people who fail to see that more is coming or who fail habitually to interact with the moment. Those are valid concerns but might be more directly stated. I trust this is helpful.
I'll ask you the same question, you seem to be a religious person, do you follow Judaism, Christianity or both?