There do appear to be alot of issues with the story.
To me it matters in that the rich elites allowed those people to die in order to get Israel. Hence Holocaust
First, you used a logical fallacy as proof. Falsely claiming our ancestors "believed" it was a globe, so we should too. That's not how to use logic.
In reality, the globe wasn't mainstream outside of academia until the 1950s.
Source? Read a book called "the flat earth conspiracy" by Eric dubay.
It's in the first chapter. Flat earth a planted conspiracy for sure. But that's because the earth isn't a globe and they want to make anything that gives people any idea that it's not a globe look so rediculous that's it's not worth looking into. Obviously this psy op has worked on you.
Lastly, the earth being a globe is a theory. So it's you who has to prove its a globe. Then it's easy to see the entire scam fall apart.
You think it makes sense, because we were all indoctrinated before we could even form full sentences. But when you relearn how to think about earth, you'll see how rediculous it is. And it's so obvious that earth is not moving, not floating in space. Giant suns and distract Galaxies are all deception.
Also, I've been around long enough to know you don't prove theory, you test them to see if they hold up. The earth being a globe and moving, is the theory you have to test. So make a test of any kind and see of it hold up. Meaning, see if you can isolate an observation and test that it means the earth is a globe.
Anyway, it for very smart people. Probably over your ability at this stage in your knowledge
I'm pretty confident Eric Dubay is a psyop to prevent real flat earthers from getting real geographical data to flesh out their theory. I'm not a flat earther, but my alternate account is. The flat earth movement has legitimate concerns in (1) government suppression, (2) scientism establishment, and (3) Antarctic secrets, so I think they should be aired. But the truth is very complex, and using frames of reference the earth is both still and moving at the same time in different senses (and maybe that's what Galileo meant by saying "And still, it moves" or "And even, it moves")! I think since C.S. Lewis said Narnia was flat with a sun that a giant could reach and with waterfalls at one edge, and since England was connected to Narnia, he was trying to get the flat earth theory going in a tame and then-respectable way. Stars are real and closer than we think, and yet we have mastery over them.
I think the biggest difficulty for flat earthers is getting the math right about the horizon effect and light refraction. Flat earthers (often at Dubay's misdirection) stick to arguing about that rule of thumb 8in/mi^2 that is not the globalists' actual math and then they find themselves arguing without the real facts. The true effects of light refraction at the horizon are more subtly calculated, and the four corners of the earth and its dozens of miles of vertical variation (including Moho digs) make an accurate geoidal system very hard indeed even for a globalist. And we're not able to argue that sea level is modeled best by perfect flatness because of both waveform and meniscal effects (considering also that waters sometimes stand up in a heap), so the putting of a boundary in Antarctica doesn't dictate the geoidal model therein. So I'm hopeful that the flat earth community will get some better math in the future.
Add: I take it by your other comments that you mean we're in an atmosphere instead of a perfect space vacuum, and that we're one species without need for macroevolution from another or significant racial distinction? Thanks.
Why is the shadow on the moon from earth round? Why is there winter if earth doesn’t change position? What are your theories for these occurrences? And if any of it comes from “muh holy book” shove that shit up your ass where it belongs. Use proof and facts, as you demand others do.
The holy book is psy op for idiots. Your questions show you never did any effort to discover yourself.
You, me, every westerner was institutionalized. You can not expect to undo that with some internet comments.
You should look up your own "proofs," because arguments with strangers is fucking dumb. You have the internet and your resourceful. If you want help and guidance, then reach out when u get stuck.
Winter is easy to explain. Hint. Sun is small and local, travels above us.
The holocaust wasn't fake. What's fake is the narrative. The Germans, and the Japanese for that matter, did have certain units that were conducting horrific torture and experiments on people.
However, most of the people who died in the wars died from the actual fighting itself and then after that they died from starvation either because they were prisoners who were not fed when supplies ran out or because they were just in a war torn country without access to food (or shelter or medicine and other basic needs for that matter).
Believing it never happened is as dumb as believing the Zionist narrative. Millions of people, most of them not Jews, died in the world wars. The Zionists grandstand on the graves of those people to push their own genocidal agendas.
It's like if they tell you that drinking water is good for you. Don't start thinking drinking water is bad for you. Just assume they poisoned it.
Zyklon B was hydrogen cyanide and used in small, closet sized boxes for delousing protocols. Hydrogen cyanide is a blood agent that binds more tightly to hemoglobin than oxygen causing the classic bluing of the skin because you're suffocating. It's also explosive in concentrations high enough to kill. So ... not really just a bug-spray.
Counterspy magazine states that jewish numbers were removed from the World Almanac due to pressure from jewish interest groups, as the data showed that 6 million couldn't have died:
Good thing they had rollercoasters to expedite their entry and, to also help speed up the process they had the infamous masturbate-you-to-death machines and the magic walls where they forced poor innocent juiceboxes to put a long gun into one hole where it would curl like in Tom & Jerry to point at their face then forced to pull the trigger.
I fell to my knees in a WalMart parking lot reading that page of history.
I'm still trying to picture how the holocoaster was supposed to work. After it dumps the bodies, does it move to the side and reset? How are they getting the bodies in there so fast and what was the point of the door opening and closing so often? Can someone explain so I can use my masturbate to death machine next to my jew skin lamp that I clean with my jew soap?
The primary issue with holocaust deniers as to ovens is that they don't realize the minority of deaths were in camps (where many were buried anyway) and the majority of deaths were by roving executions and ghettoizations across the Nazi empire, where body removal was not their concern.
Oh, I didn't realize you were a denier. There's so much handwaving compared to facts here. I picked up a few names, you're welcome to post data at c/Holocaust as well as c/FlatEarth.
C/flat earth is a joke. Same with holocaust. Both are so the other boards with higher views stay clean of these major controlled ideas. Don't want the population knowing about this shit, throw the FE and deniers into a separate den so they can't spoil the herd.
Also, I'm not denier of anything. I just ask people to prove it. And every single source that you could possibly point to that proves there was mass genocide during the Holocaust is just deception. I see camps, but no genocide. I've done more research than anyone I've ever met, trying to find something that proves the claim that Jews were genocided in Europe and the only thing I find, again and again, is that there was no genocide. Sure people died, it was war. But the numbers are orders of magnitude away from the supposed history "facts"
Labeling anyone who argues my points as a "denier" is just part of the psy op. You're either part of it by choice or subconsciously. I'm a halocaust revisionist if you need a label. Just like I'm not a flat earth, I'm am ex-glober.
How we say things is literally how they control the narrative through us. Watch what you repeat
I just commented on this at the end of my previous so I'm glad that much is in synch. Sure, you can post FE to the bigger boards, but then I still am unclear on the goal; you're either out to prove it to people or you don't care how big the board is, you're either out to demonstrate that you're a reasonable guy or you don't care if people think you unreasonable, etc. But because I'm the one running c/FlatEarth and c/Holocaust you can make them anything you want and build anything from them, assuming you're clear on your goal.
If you want people to post stuff so you can say "doesn't prove it", that's noble, but I'm not sure how that's better than the autodidactic approach. I like to start by ensuring others are committed to the truth at all costs, because that has a way of unifying open-minded people in coming to consensus on the discussion, but if you thrive on conflict then c/Conspiracies is really the wild west right now (effectively unmoderated).
Will be happy to use your language, ex-glober is nice!
Most intelligent people realize that the holocoaster was a fraud and fake.
Least*
Only a retard would come to such conclusions.
There do appear to be alot of issues with the story. To me it matters in that the rich elites allowed those people to die in order to get Israel. Hence Holocaust
The smartest of the People also realize that the earth isn't a globe and we aren't in space, nor did we evolve here into different races.
Our ancestors believed it was. People back then knew it was because of common sense.
Finally something objectively true.
Oh how sad. Sorry dude
If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. If I'm right, either run away or post more non rebuttals like "oh how sad".
First, you used a logical fallacy as proof. Falsely claiming our ancestors "believed" it was a globe, so we should too. That's not how to use logic.
In reality, the globe wasn't mainstream outside of academia until the 1950s.
Source? Read a book called "the flat earth conspiracy" by Eric dubay.
It's in the first chapter. Flat earth a planted conspiracy for sure. But that's because the earth isn't a globe and they want to make anything that gives people any idea that it's not a globe look so rediculous that's it's not worth looking into. Obviously this psy op has worked on you.
Lastly, the earth being a globe is a theory. So it's you who has to prove its a globe. Then it's easy to see the entire scam fall apart.
You think it makes sense, because we were all indoctrinated before we could even form full sentences. But when you relearn how to think about earth, you'll see how rediculous it is. And it's so obvious that earth is not moving, not floating in space. Giant suns and distract Galaxies are all deception.
Also, I've been around long enough to know you don't prove theory, you test them to see if they hold up. The earth being a globe and moving, is the theory you have to test. So make a test of any kind and see of it hold up. Meaning, see if you can isolate an observation and test that it means the earth is a globe.
Anyway, it for very smart people. Probably over your ability at this stage in your knowledge
I'm pretty confident Eric Dubay is a psyop to prevent real flat earthers from getting real geographical data to flesh out their theory. I'm not a flat earther, but my alternate account is. The flat earth movement has legitimate concerns in (1) government suppression, (2) scientism establishment, and (3) Antarctic secrets, so I think they should be aired. But the truth is very complex, and using frames of reference the earth is both still and moving at the same time in different senses (and maybe that's what Galileo meant by saying "And still, it moves" or "And even, it moves")! I think since C.S. Lewis said Narnia was flat with a sun that a giant could reach and with waterfalls at one edge, and since England was connected to Narnia, he was trying to get the flat earth theory going in a tame and then-respectable way. Stars are real and closer than we think, and yet we have mastery over them.
I think the biggest difficulty for flat earthers is getting the math right about the horizon effect and light refraction. Flat earthers (often at Dubay's misdirection) stick to arguing about that rule of thumb 8in/mi^2 that is not the globalists' actual math and then they find themselves arguing without the real facts. The true effects of light refraction at the horizon are more subtly calculated, and the four corners of the earth and its dozens of miles of vertical variation (including Moho digs) make an accurate geoidal system very hard indeed even for a globalist. And we're not able to argue that sea level is modeled best by perfect flatness because of both waveform and meniscal effects (considering also that waters sometimes stand up in a heap), so the putting of a boundary in Antarctica doesn't dictate the geoidal model therein. So I'm hopeful that the flat earth community will get some better math in the future.
Add: I take it by your other comments that you mean we're in an atmosphere instead of a perfect space vacuum, and that we're one species without need for macroevolution from another or significant racial distinction? Thanks.
Same reason as my other reply
Why is the shadow on the moon from earth round? Why is there winter if earth doesn’t change position? What are your theories for these occurrences? And if any of it comes from “muh holy book” shove that shit up your ass where it belongs. Use proof and facts, as you demand others do.
The holy book is psy op for idiots. Your questions show you never did any effort to discover yourself.
You, me, every westerner was institutionalized. You can not expect to undo that with some internet comments.
You should look up your own "proofs," because arguments with strangers is fucking dumb. You have the internet and your resourceful. If you want help and guidance, then reach out when u get stuck.
Winter is easy to explain. Hint. Sun is small and local, travels above us.
The holocaust wasn't fake. What's fake is the narrative. The Germans, and the Japanese for that matter, did have certain units that were conducting horrific torture and experiments on people.
However, most of the people who died in the wars died from the actual fighting itself and then after that they died from starvation either because they were prisoners who were not fed when supplies ran out or because they were just in a war torn country without access to food (or shelter or medicine and other basic needs for that matter).
Believing it never happened is as dumb as believing the Zionist narrative. Millions of people, most of them not Jews, died in the world wars. The Zionists grandstand on the graves of those people to push their own genocidal agendas.
It's like if they tell you that drinking water is good for you. Don't start thinking drinking water is bad for you. Just assume they poisoned it.
What does the term itself mean?
A burnt offering to moloch.
But the jews claimed to have been gassed. In a chamber with wooden doors. Gassed by a bugspray...
Zyklon B was hydrogen cyanide and used in small, closet sized boxes for delousing protocols. Hydrogen cyanide is a blood agent that binds more tightly to hemoglobin than oxygen causing the classic bluing of the skin because you're suffocating. It's also explosive in concentrations high enough to kill. So ... not really just a bug-spray.
Wrong.
My training in the US Army's NBC MOS disagrees with you.
Then why didn't it kill everyone in the delousing chamber?
Counterspy magazine states that jewish numbers were removed from the World Almanac due to pressure from jewish interest groups, as the data showed that 6 million couldn't have died:
https://files.catbox.moe/dpngo0.png
Auschwitz death number revisions so far:
https://files.catbox.moe/zar1ge.png
Good thing they had rollercoasters to expedite their entry and, to also help speed up the process they had the infamous masturbate-you-to-death machines and the magic walls where they forced poor innocent juiceboxes to put a long gun into one hole where it would curl like in Tom & Jerry to point at their face then forced to pull the trigger.
I fell to my knees in a WalMart parking lot reading that page of history.
I'm still trying to picture how the holocoaster was supposed to work. After it dumps the bodies, does it move to the side and reset? How are they getting the bodies in there so fast and what was the point of the door opening and closing so often? Can someone explain so I can use my masturbate to death machine next to my jew skin lamp that I clean with my jew soap?
The holo-coaster:
https://files.catbox.moe/8u5oj5.png
WWII world almanac census records:
https://files.catbox.moe/b919j0.png
https://media.scored.co/post/SC62Tr2sgd1f.jpeg
Those poor boys
It's become a big joke now which is really awful in the land of normalcy. At least for you g people. IMO.
How many gas chambers do they claim existed? Surely they could say it was more than 300 at a time.
The primary issue with holocaust deniers as to ovens is that they don't realize the minority of deaths were in camps (where many were buried anyway) and the majority of deaths were by roving executions and ghettoizations across the Nazi empire, where body removal was not their concern.
Sure. You win because Im not here to argue with institutionalized cognitive dissonance.
Oh, I didn't realize you were a denier. There's so much handwaving compared to facts here. I picked up a few names, you're welcome to post data at c/Holocaust as well as c/FlatEarth.
C/flat earth is a joke. Same with holocaust. Both are so the other boards with higher views stay clean of these major controlled ideas. Don't want the population knowing about this shit, throw the FE and deniers into a separate den so they can't spoil the herd.
Also, I'm not denier of anything. I just ask people to prove it. And every single source that you could possibly point to that proves there was mass genocide during the Holocaust is just deception. I see camps, but no genocide. I've done more research than anyone I've ever met, trying to find something that proves the claim that Jews were genocided in Europe and the only thing I find, again and again, is that there was no genocide. Sure people died, it was war. But the numbers are orders of magnitude away from the supposed history "facts"
Labeling anyone who argues my points as a "denier" is just part of the psy op. You're either part of it by choice or subconsciously. I'm a halocaust revisionist if you need a label. Just like I'm not a flat earth, I'm am ex-glober.
How we say things is literally how they control the narrative through us. Watch what you repeat
I just commented on this at the end of my previous so I'm glad that much is in synch. Sure, you can post FE to the bigger boards, but then I still am unclear on the goal; you're either out to prove it to people or you don't care how big the board is, you're either out to demonstrate that you're a reasonable guy or you don't care if people think you unreasonable, etc. But because I'm the one running c/FlatEarth and c/Holocaust you can make them anything you want and build anything from them, assuming you're clear on your goal.
If you want people to post stuff so you can say "doesn't prove it", that's noble, but I'm not sure how that's better than the autodidactic approach. I like to start by ensuring others are committed to the truth at all costs, because that has a way of unifying open-minded people in coming to consensus on the discussion, but if you thrive on conflict then c/Conspiracies is really the wild west right now (effectively unmoderated).
Will be happy to use your language, ex-glober is nice!
They've been finding mass graves from the Einsatzgruppen executions for decades now.
I fully support testing the "holohoax" hypothesis on their proprietors. We kill all of you and see how long it takes to burn your bodies.
Do you have any evidence of this?
Source