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This is where we can differ. I can point to everything the Jews have done throughout history, from crucifying Jesus to getting kicked out of 100+ countries to label the Jewish traditions as “rejecting Jesus” and making them “children of the devil”.
Immigration policies about Jews should be the same as the ones for 3rd world migrants. They shouldn’t be allowed in 1st world countries if they promote degeneracy, steal money from it for themselves, and kill its people. There are good Jews, just like migrants. But the good ones don’t out-way the actions of the bad ones.
Jews didn't crucify Jesus. Jews weren't kicked out of 100 countries (#11 on list), the source only gives 12 countries. If cherry-picking allows us to say Jewish traditions reject Jesus, cherry-picking allows our enemies to say American traditions reject Jesus (but America's Constitution says Jesus is Lord, in the date clause). If we can distinguish whole people-groups, including literal children, as devilish based on the crimes of a few, we are condemning the innocent with the guilty, which God forbids from Genesis on.
If you admit there are well-behaved Jews (no one is "good" but God), then we don't get to call Jews children of the devil collectively, that's judging the innocent with the guilty. Something to think about.
You said you counted duplicates and got to 89 countries. Even if christians/muslims have been kicked out of that many countries, you're comparing a small minority to major religions that sought converts. Jews got kicked out because of there dangerous nature, not because they sought converts.
You're right. judging entire groups of people seems very unchristian. I wish we could all live in harmony together, but jews/immigrants do cause society to be significantly worse when they immigrate to 1st world countries. it really is a moral dillema, we have immigration policies for a reason, but they are inherently racist.
Idk, it really is a moral dilemma that only Jesus would be able to solve. I'm just tired of all these never-ending discussions of politics and honestly life in general. What's the point of even living, i've already gotten my heart broken and we're in a evil/flawed world and are going to die anyway.
Let me lead with that one because it's of a different tone than the rest. Jesus is able and does reveal the point of living, and he is there with everyone's heartbreaks and will reveal the reasons for it and the place it serves in their lives. When I went through heartbreaks it took awhile to see the reasons and to understand why that was to be part of my experience, but it allows me to be confident that he will do the same for you. Ask him one step at a time.
Moving to the more pedantic points that I wrote before reading the whole comment: I just want to explain that I said (with sources) that Grosser counted 81 expulsions from 12 countries and regions of 10 others (there would be no useful methodology if we tried to count older administrations):
Also, Christians and Muslims and Roma were regarded as dangerous with the same language and expelled thereby, and nowadays Trump is expelling up to 109 dangerous nations from America that hardly need listing. Conversion efforts are irrelevant to these.
There is an easy answer on immigration policies! They need not be inherently racist. They work for centuries in countries where they give reasonable standards for immigrants having a naturalization experience that is sufficiently similar to a lifetime citizenship experience from birth. That has never been a problem for any country. It's when a country is rich and powerful and decides to give so much unrequited mercy and favor to so many people that it forgets its duty to protect its own citizens, that it becomes a problem.
I believe that Jesus is busy solving moral dilemmas every day by his Spirit informing those who need answers at the time of their need. This is the path by which he is redeeming the whole world such that every type of heartbreak reaches a point where it is to never happen again. Anything that happens to you might well be the last time it ever happens, and when you live life that way with expectant trust you will be ready for the momentary negatives yet to happen in the future.
Muslims(sometimes) and Roma fall under the immigrant unbrella. Islamists both got kicked out for being dangerous and seeking converts. Comparing Islam and Christianity to a ethnic minority is wrong because they are massive religions that have spread to more countries than Jews and are primarily seeking converts which other countries don't want, while Jews are kicked after already being in the nation for there actions. Christianity especially has been adopted by many countries without any force or ulterior motive and the same cannot be said about Judaism.
Now the roma (sometimes islamist also) fall under the immigrant umbrella and should be treated by the same criteria the Jews are. Also according to "jewish owned" google ai, Jews have been kicked out of far more nations than the roma, and many more than any other small ethnic group in the world. Both are dangerous groups and should be treated by there actions.
Will the people assimilate though? See the western world today, many of these migrant groups have been in there host nations for generations and still are causing significant problems.
Thank you for this brother, I'll keep this in mind. I see the world around me and see stress, hate, and sin everywhere. I wish everybody could live together in peace. I have to remind myself to keep Jesus in my heart and pray to make sense of this world.