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The bible is definitely antisemitic in terms of how the word is thrown around today. My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was the OG antisemite by telling the Pharisees to their faces they are children of the devil; the father of lies.
Turn back some and Our Father in heaven had to continue punishing and destroying "them" all throughout the Old Testament for their selflish and degenerate behavior.
I love the bible personally.
The Bible says Jesus was Jewish and King of the Jews.
Except it doesn't say He is Jewish. Judean, yes. Jewish, no. See: loudaios
Being King of humanity includes jews too if you consider them human. "King of the jews" was used as a mockery, not an actual title. He is from the tribe of Judah making Him Judean.
You'll never be right if you keep your current stance, much like how jews that do not accept Christ as their Lord and Savior will never get to heaven. Nice try though, rabbi. This goyim knows better.
"Jewish" means "being a Jew", how could it mean anything else?
Ioudaios in Latin is Judaeus, which in 900s France was elided to Ju meaning the same thing and referring to the same people, which through many spellings became standardized as Jew.
For there to be a difference between Judeans/Judahites and Jews, there would need to be two different peoples that never merged, but we only see one polity that at times accepted outsiders who converted, were circumcised, and intermarried. There is no historical scenario where there were two different peoples of this description.
The Magi didn't mock Jesus by calling him King of the Jews in Matt. 2:2.
Goyim is plural, we're goyim, you're a goy.
I've been asking for years if anyone has evidence that Jews are not Judeans/Judahites, and nobody has it. It turns out that the first people to say that Ashkenazi did not have 100% Jewish blood were Jews in the first place (Judah Halevi, Abraham ibn Daud, and Isaac Levinsohn from Ukraine). They were hoping that by making that admission they'd get less persecution, but over time it made them more persecuted. You're not perpetuating a narrative written by Ashkenazi Jews, are you?
So jews changed its meaning to suit their agenda, like always. Thanks for supporting my claim and clarifying, rabbi. Keep that kvetching energy up!
And there you go again, conflating a modern, mostly eastern European group of Christ-deniers with a similarly named leventine group from antiquity. If they were really the same people who were promised the land of milk and honey 3000 years ago, why are they mostly lactose intolerant?
The Ashkenazi have admitted that they arose from intermarriage of converts, which affects the gene pool. The question is whether they are the same people, and that is answered by the fact that peacefully merging into the same agreed polity as someone else makes you the same people. I've asked for proof that they are not the same people and none has come forth. In tenth century France, Ju was the short form and Judaeus was the long form of the same term for the same people.
If we Americans may tell Jews they're not true Jews and we know who are true Jews, Jews may tell us Americans that we're not true Americans and they know who are true Americans. Those who are othering Jews by calling them non-Jews are doing what they accuse Jews of doing.
Yet the jews crucified him and didn't recognize him as savior. A jewish person who doesn't recognize Jesus as saviour is still a jew and a child of the devil. One who converts to Christianity is no longer a jew, but a christian. That's what the bible says.
christianChristian*bibleBible*I’m not here to argue about semantics. Go to Reddit for that.
I respect your other comments and you seem wise enough to take direction from a few simple indicators.
Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus .... and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews! ... And they crucified him (Matt. 27:27, 29, 35). Roman soldiers.
For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets (1 Th. 2:14-15). Not "crucified". "The Jews" here excludes Thessalonian Jews and Christian Jews.
When Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel .... The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied .... And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead .... And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers .... Many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand (Acts 3:12, 13, 15, 17, 4:4). Hundreds of Israelites who delivered Jesus were of the first 5,000 Christians.
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) that word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead (Acts 10:36-41).
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek (Rom. 1:16).
And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law (Acts 21:20). Greek, literally "many myriads", i.e. over 30,000 Torah-observant Messianic Jews in Jerusalem alone.
Yes, like any Gentile, except the English Bible capitalizes "Jewish" and "Jew".
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:28). So, only in the sense that one is "no longer" a man or woman. Further:
Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew (Acts 21:39). While a Christian.
He is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God (Rom. 2:29).
All the quotes you brought up do not deny that the Jews that reject Jesus are the “children of the devil”
Yeah, exactly. Bottom line is that the Jews(ones that deny Jesus) are “children of the devil” as a whole and are not the “chosen people of God”. They should be treated like any other group of people.
When I’m talking about Jews, I’m talking about those who deny Christ. Of course Paul was Jewish, he wasn’t “Chosen of God” because of that, but was a “child of God” because he was a Christian. Being Jewish had nothing to do with being the “chosen people of God” after Christ.