Lol I shouldnt be replying to you, but I felt like sharing this and I seen your post. Dont worry I wont do it again any time soon.

I was looking into the wing family dna thing again.

And now I really want to submit a test, even though my dad made me promise to not take one and hes prolly right but my curiosity is killing me. Funny how potentially dying can change ones views. Im going to ask for a referral for genetic testing for fanconi syndrome anyway since my partners insurance will cover it in my situation. Being 6'3, I cant see it being a genetic thing. Most people suffer as a child from this. I think my dad was just freaked out because there is always the chance it shows a NPE, non paternal event. Anyway.

The Wing family has a what is currently considered a family or private SNP under the L48 Haplogroup. This SNP is called M157.2 (as this same mutation has been previously found in another haplogroup). Two members of the Wing family, each descended from a different son of Rev. John Wing, have both been found to exhibit this SNP, which proves this SNP occurred with or before Rev. John Wing. In other words, this means every male Wing (who descends in a straight paternal line from Rev. John Wing) would also be expected to have this SNP. Thus far, no other family has been found to also have this SNP.

Using chatgpt to help me understand a little better I wondered how rare this snp marker is.

The SNP M157.2 is one of the rarer Y‑chromosome markers that has been identified as part of the “wing” haplogroup cluster (often associated with the E1b1a branch and sometimes linked to populations in West Africa). Because it is not a high‑frequency marker, only a small fraction of males worldwide carry it.

M157.2 is rare; it appears in roughly 0.1 % of men globally, rising to about 0.5–1 % among certain West African populations.

Something about the founder effect as well, likely to do with the frisnian migration of the 5th century. Then I wondered, how rare it would be to carry the asian gene for dry earwax. Yes yes I know, everyone thinks im crazy but I think i might have to get a dna test to prove it.

This part kinda blew me away. Well 1. I guess I was wrong about eurasians being why, the gene developed after that split which was 40,000 years ago. It could have developed independently but that would be near impossible. At some point there would have had to be some asian ancestor. My grandma was right, it blows my mind.

I been using a program to run inputs for chatgpt and can only use short prompts, but I find its way more reliable that way. Using the website prompt, besides locking me out randomly, or just giving random error codes seems more inclined to suck up to the user. And the long chats of course cause it to just break completely.

I also asked it about ghengis khan since he was technically asian too.

The famous “Genghis Khan effect” refers to a single Y‑haplotype (C2* or its modern derivatives) that is common in Central Asia, South Asia and parts of Eastern Europe (~8 % of men in those regions). It represents a massive male‑line expansion, but it does not make most Europeans carry “Asian genes” in the sense of widespread East‑Asian ancestry.

European genomes: ~5–10 % of European DNA comes from ancient Eurasian hunter‑gatherers, Neolithic farmers (from the Near East), and Bronze‑Age steppe pastoralists.

Genghis‑Khan haplotype is present at a low frequency (~1–2 %) in many European populations, but it’s just one lineage among thousands.

So while some Europeans do carry a Y‑chromosome that traces back to the Mongol Empire, it does not dramatically increase the prevalence of East‑Asian autosomal alleles (like ABCC11 A or the low‑odor haplotype). Those alleles remain largely confined to East Asian populations.

And 2, this is the part where I think its tripping but it claims...

If you’re a male descendant of Rev. John Wing and you carry:

M157.2 – a very rare Y‑SNP in Europe,

The dry earwax allele (ABCC11 A) – uncommon in Europeans,

A low‑odor olfactory haplotype that is virtually absent from European genomes,

you are likely among the few thousand males worldwide who fit all three criteria—roughly 1 in 20 000–100 000 European men.

Wild, I want to get the genetic test just to see. I just hate the idea of the chinese or the rich owning my genetic results.

I also out of shits and giggles asked it what it thought the odds I would be experimented on without my consent. It said basically zero lmao.

Im likely to be dead in 5-10 years anyway so im not worried about doxing myself. If its cancer, I think ill spend the last bit of time I have in the woods of appalachia away from electronics.