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The Bible vs Eastern Orthodoxy (www.youtube.com)
posted 79 days ago by TurnToGodNow 79 days ago by TurnToGodNow +4 / -4
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– TurnToGodNow [S] 4 points 79 days ago +4 / -0

Those of us trusting in Christ as Lord are saved. It is sanctification that is the ongoing process.

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– SmithW1984 4 points 78 days ago +4 / -0

Salvation is a process that spans our entire lives until our very last breath (and even after that through prayers and intercession of the living). No one is pronounced saved until the Last Judgment. Anyone who claims to be saved is in delusion. Do you really believe that people who profess faith in Christ will be saved if they don't repent and don't follow His command but persist in their sin, choosing death over life? I'm sure He says otherwise.

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Matthew 7:21-23

20 At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and [a]manifest Myself to him.”

John 14:20-22

15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

John 14:15

Professing your love without manifesting it through your actions is fake and gay. If you truly love Christ you will follow His commandments and His Church. Imagine saying to your wife "I love you" and then treating her like a piece of trash and beating her up. It's meaningless and contradictory.

But protestants truly believe that and have some weird notion of splitting their mind from their body, where their mind professes the faith and is saved, and their body does all kinds of degeneracy as if they're not accountable for it by having free will. "Christ is my Lord and I'm saved, but my stupid gay body can't help going to gay bars on friday nights and doing cocaine until sunrise." This is truly schizophrenic. Such a dangerous spiritual delusion to believe salvation is as easy as signing a legal contract. If only it were that easy...

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– TurnToGodNow [S] 3 points 78 days ago +3 / -0

As mentioned in the video, your church leaders don't even claim to know they are saved, so how can you say that is THE church to follow? The church whose members aren't even sure they are saved, that's how you know you can be sure of this church?

Praise God we have the Holy Scriptures and don't need to rely on these uncertain men to be saved.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 78 days ago +1 / -0

You arbitrarily decided that knowledge of who's saved or not is the prerequisite. This is knowledge only God has because He's the one who judges. You're not only acting as your own popes by doing personal interpretation of Scripture, you're also acting as your own gods by making judgments of who's saved or not. Anyone could claim they are saved, therefore they are saved in reality? That's a non sequitur. What does anyone being sure if he's saved or not have to do with what the true Church is? Where do you get this from?

Praise God we have the Holy Scriptures and don't need to rely on these uncertain men to be saved.

Refer to my other comment deboonking Sola Scriptura. You're in a contradiction, bro.

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– TurnToGodNow [S] 2 points 77 days ago +2 / -0

acting as your own popes

Please show me where Jesus or any Apostle said you require a pope to read scripture. Also check with the prophets in the OT. Let me know what you find.

Secondly why haven't you addressed a single argument from the pastor in the video?

Jesus said "He that heareth my word and believeth on he that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation" John 5:24

We see the Apostle Paul write "saved" in the past tense. "unto use which are saved, it is the power of God" 1 Corinthians 1:18

And we are to know a "peace which surpasses all understanding" from God. That makes sense in the context of being saved already.

Far from a license to sin, Paul who said we are saved "by grace... through faith" showed complete devotion. If someone else uses a superficial faith in Jesus to justify a worldly life of sin they were never transformed and saved. Simple as that.

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