If the Bible tells you that you can be saved as a certainty, and your church "father" tells you he can never know, then run.
No, it means you have wrong presuppositions and wrong interpretation of the text and commit a word-concept fallacy. Calling no man a father refers to the heavenly Father, not biological or father or father in the patriarchal traditional sense. Have you called your dad father? Well I guess you've broken Christ's commandment then. You see how stupid the protestant interpretation is?
The Bible is clear, it talks about "saved" people in the past tense. Not might be saved, or could be saved. Please watch the video.
This is outright lying or willful ignorance of the Scripture. You're quote mining as every protestant in existence, ignoring the passages that don't jive with your presuppositions.
1 Corinthians 1:18 – “To us who are being saved it is the power of God.”
Philippians 2:12 – “Work out your salvation with fear and trembling…”
Romans 5:9 – “We shall be saved from wrath through him.”
Romans 13:11 – “Now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed.”
1 Peter 1:5 – “…ready to be revealed in the last time.”
You are lawyering away God's clear commandments. This is exactly what Jesus and Paul warned about regarding traditions.
Notice in the New Testament that times tradition is brought up, it is to warn against it's effects.
You're quote mining as every protestant in existence,
"You're using the scripture as its intended and it proves me wrong, Therefore I will listen to a man's weasling out of God's word because it's what makes me feel better"
This is outright lying or willful ignorance of the Scripture
The word "saved" is clear as day. You are outright gaslighting me to try to prove your point.
True protestant pastors (which I listen to) are searching the Bible diligently to be certain on the instructions. They find no instructions for a separate church based set of practices to keep you hooked on the church's power. If so they would be first in line to do them, because THEY ARE SINCERE.
I'm sorry you're so lost dude. I'll pray for you to come to your senses.
You're obviously looking for the truth. You won't find it in the interpretations of delusional heretics online who twist the word of God. You'll only find it in the living Body of Christ Himself. If you're open to being challenged come to divine liturgy and talk to a priest. Maybe you'll be even more convinced the Church is wrong but at least you'd know what you're rejecting instead of dealing with hearsay and prejudices.
By going against the Church you're condemning your soul. Even if there is the slightest suspicion you may not know it all and be wrong about it, it's worth investigating. That's all I have to say. God bless you.
What matters is if you are saved. Fussing about whether you KNOW you are or not is a struggle session. Settle for faith.
If the Bible tells you that you can be saved as a certainty, and your church "father" tells you he can never know, then run.
The Bible is clear, it talks about "saved" people in the past tense. Not might be saved, or could be saved. Please watch the video.
No, it means you have wrong presuppositions and wrong interpretation of the text and commit a word-concept fallacy. Calling no man a father refers to the heavenly Father, not biological or father or father in the patriarchal traditional sense. Have you called your dad father? Well I guess you've broken Christ's commandment then. You see how stupid the protestant interpretation is?
This is outright lying or willful ignorance of the Scripture. You're quote mining as every protestant in existence, ignoring the passages that don't jive with your presuppositions.
You are lawyering away God's clear commandments. This is exactly what Jesus and Paul warned about regarding traditions.
Notice in the New Testament that times tradition is brought up, it is to warn against it's effects.
"You're using the scripture as its intended and it proves me wrong, Therefore I will listen to a man's weasling out of God's word because it's what makes me feel better"
The word "saved" is clear as day. You are outright gaslighting me to try to prove your point.
True protestant pastors (which I listen to) are searching the Bible diligently to be certain on the instructions. They find no instructions for a separate church based set of practices to keep you hooked on the church's power. If so they would be first in line to do them, because THEY ARE SINCERE.
I'm sorry you're so lost dude. I'll pray for you to come to your senses.
You're obviously looking for the truth. You won't find it in the interpretations of delusional heretics online who twist the word of God. You'll only find it in the living Body of Christ Himself. If you're open to being challenged come to divine liturgy and talk to a priest. Maybe you'll be even more convinced the Church is wrong but at least you'd know what you're rejecting instead of dealing with hearsay and prejudices.
By going against the Church you're condemning your soul. Even if there is the slightest suspicion you may not know it all and be wrong about it, it's worth investigating. That's all I have to say. God bless you.