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Does the community want more active moderation? Discussion
posted 55 days ago by Thisisnotanexit 55 days ago by Thisisnotanexit +9 / -4

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– Neo1 2 points 37 days ago +2 / -0

I believe God is in control of it all and deferred justice is sweet.

That's not replying at all to the fact that I disproved your position. Nice strategy to hide yourself behind God on this one, certainly a lot of believers would just shut their mouth here instead of remembering that you dodge the topic.

Do you truly believe that God will strike down Facebook?

Not at all, they outlasted them.

That's a defeat still. You're simply contesting the manner of their defeat.

The question is the community's sense of self-preservation, and it decides that deliberatively.

No, that is not the question. You want to turn this into the question.

In your analysis I defined "didn't agree with" as "rejected".

Then your definition is clearly wrong. Didn't agree is never rejected, unless specifically saying they reject it.

Only 2 agreed, the rest didn't.

2 agreed with OP = 3. The vast majority of the rest didn't even reply to it.

Play on the odds as much as you want, I'll disprove you every time.

My phrasing was hasty, but it's a quibble not worth arguing over.

I bet that every time you are caught in a lie, you use this argument... You downplay your fault, so it seems that you were kinda right to say those things. You cannot even admit you were wrong. Your ego betrays you. Do you know how I know this? Because it did the same to me.

No, I don't agree that a mod should base a ban on upvotes on an informal question,

I clearly stated: "It's obvious that "the vast majority" is done with fwoc, although they don't support a ban in majority (although votes do), they would support some action towards the constant comments of someone they ignore"

You reply to an imaginary comment, not mine.

And assuming others don't follow my example is just as wrong

Then tell me of another user, who upvotes a post that they clearly don't agree with. I will wait.


I can nitpick all your points, but the bottom line is that you can't take any useful decision towards progress in this community. Not unless it is backed by many users, so you don't feel attacked for taking this decision. But if you think about it, if the community does it, then what are you useful for then?

That's my point - with you, or without you, there is no difference.

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– SwampRangers 1 point 37 days ago +1 / -0

I disproved your position

I don't see that our disagreement about how to interpret a complex discussion amounts to "disproof". I stated how I would judge a similar case, and it's meaningless to "disprove" another person's statement of intent or thought or state of mind. De gustibus.

Yes, at the right time God will strike down Facebook if it remains evil and we don't do it as his agents first. We are to occupy until he comes and he is to do the finishing that we can't. If you're saying that position decreases likelihood that we'll get done what we need, when applied back here I've learned that I focus on what is local to me and everyone else does the same and God ensures it's sufficient. Since he hasn't revealed to me a War Plan to Right Great Wrongs at Conspiracies, I don't. What he did reveal to me at Christianity has borne much fruit.

If you're saying that infiltrators' power of outlasting good mods is an unexpected tactic, I already have that as their tactic if I decide to declare war of some kind. Sticking around at Christianity for 5 years with the same people might count for something like successful prosecution of a particular campaign. Once I recognized how Scored worked overall, 4 years ago I made a nice post at ConPro Defining The Relationship and emphasizing the statement (now nuked), "My boss taught Sun Tzu the art of war. Speculate as you please, my statement stands, if I declare war it will be epic and unnoticed." So I am very comfortable with the wars I've planned, and prosecuted. I'm a Swamp Ranger. If you don't like my victories you're not who I won them for.

Now then, you refer to a "question" without elaboration. Presumably you mean how the mod(s) should moderate to win some war and carry out some community vision. If I haven't answered, then ask directly.

I'll disprove you every time.

I merely analyzed to help you understand my impression. You decline it, I have nothing more to argue with you about an unimportant interpretation that is a bete noire in your bonnet. Non est disputandum.

I bet that every time you are caught in a lie, you use this argument.

If a brother in Christ charges me with lying and refuses to negotiate with my explanation, I suggest that he hasn't learned much about Matthew 18:15-17 yet. Why should I waste time trying to defend myself against your charges when I gain nothing from it?

Your ego betrays you. Do you know how I know this? Because it did the same to me.

If some admission of wrong agrees with my conscience and is helpful to the other person, I offer it. Clearly I am generically in the wrong somewhere because you are unsatisfied. I can guarantee you I will work with your reasonable appeals to me about my alleged wrong and any reparation, but I cannot guarantee that you will be satisfied by your own standard, only by the commonsense standard.

Then tell me of another user, who upvotes a post that they clearly don't agree with. I will wait.

That's a wonderful dare! Votes being so public and all. Okay, let's play face value. Yep, there's one or more users here, Christian, who has/have admitted to upvoting posts though disagreed with, whether it's because of affirming the right to speak, affirming the person and not the content, or for other reasons. Both for privacy reasons and because searching said comments would be prohibitively time-eating, I refuse to elaborate further.

I can nitpick all your points,

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– Neo1 2 points 37 days ago +2 / -0

I don't see that our disagreement about how to interpret a complex discussion amounts to "disproof". I stated how I would judge a similar case, and it's meaningless to "disprove" another person's statement of intent or thought or state of mind. De gustibus.

Taking no firm position as usual.

Yes, at the right time God will strike down Facebook if it remains evil and we don't do it as his agents first.

:D

I'll just leave this as it is.

We are to occupy until he comes and he is to do the finishing that we can't.

You don't understand God at all.

Since he hasn't revealed to me a War Plan to Right Great Wrongs at Conspiracies, I don't. What he did reveal to me at Christianity has borne much fruit.

Bloopers reel commence.

if I decide to declare war of some kind.

Too late for you, friend. We've been holding the line without you too well. I don't see how you can be of any use.

I'm a Swamp Ranger.

So?

Why should I waste time trying to defend myself against your charges when I gain nothing from it?

When have you defended yourself? All you did was twist the point, which is a form of lying. Your own fault, not mine.


It's best to expose the enemy, so others can understand your faults and never follow your twisted examples. Thank you for doing that for me.

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