Im not here to preach, but I do have thoughts on the subject. I’ll probably add some as time goes on, but what are your thoughts? I see a wide array across the different forums here, and I wonder if open discussion can bring us all any closer to Truth, Love, Beauty, Peace, and everything else our souls desire/require.
Please, speak as generally or as autistically hyper-focused as you want
That's a mighty Community Roundtable, if you ask me...
You managed to invoke the bright minds to think in a single direction! Commendable!
And you're not even a mod to enforce that...
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To answer your question in short: The Bible is the True guide.
If any religion, or denomination is against the Bible, then it is wrong. For example, Catholicism is against the Bible, as they worship Mary... Why would anyone think the mother of Jesus is the one to answer prayers, while God and Jesus are confirmed to be the ones that answer prayer?
That, and more, in documentaries that prove it...
Bottom line, if we want to understand the True Word of God, we need to investigate it. After Jesus showed us the way, the appostles were the ones to debate whether we need to be circumcised or not... They chosed not... Do you know why?
Through a debate. Great minds united to figure out the truth even at the cost of their own ego... So that is the cost of truth - ego.
Very interesting thought…. We’ve all heard of “ego death”, (but probably, mostly as linked to psychedelic drugs) - the thought that when we let our ego die, Truth comes knocking to fill the void, the Truth that Jesus came to share with us, kind of ties together a few “seemingly disconnected” threads in a way that makes a lot of sense.
Hear here!
Well, I know this example from my research (never actually tried psychedelics myself) but what they feel is intense love towards nature and intense emotions that most commonly makes them cry.
I think that would be a new sense of purpose towards loving nature, not exactly "ego death". A girl talked about being very focused on hugging a specific tree, which practically is the whole religion of northern Indians (and by Indians, I mean "How, white man." not "do not redeem" Indians...)
In my theory, those drugs let a demon possess the person, so they feel intense feelings to worship trees. Just to be clear, that's 100% not what I meant. I meant simple humility.
Just want to be really clear on this because I researched psychedelics and I don't recommend them to anyone. One person shared with me that he felt that "he was chased by demons" - his own words... And he will never try those drugs again.
Hmm
Here’s what comes up when I type “define ego death”
I don’t really see where you’re coming from with your definition. But, given the background you share, perhaps it’s simply our different experiences with this word coloring our interpretations. I personally have had nothing but positive experiences the handful of times (over a decade in the past now) I used various psychelidics. They were powerful ways to see and understand things from entirely new perspectives - in my experience at least, and “ego death” was a part of that
Ok, I will try to explain the difference:
Ego-death can lead to one of two possible outcomes:
Humility - helping other humans, who also fight their own ego occasionally. Being immune to insults, while trying to correctly see their own problem, so they know that insults don't work, and they might see a helping person instead of an insulting one. Works with very few, but works.
Being one with dirt and tree, which is not correct, imo. Dirt and tree do not have free will, you can't be the same value as them. You can be made from them, but so is the wooden whistle, and the wooden wheel, yet we use them for different purposes.
So our misunderstanding comes from what comes after the ego death. Is it humility? Or being one with everything around you?
I have investigated a lot of cases, where psychedelics lead to "oneness with all", not true humility. Christianity leads to true humility. And you are forbidden from taking any drugs to experience true Christianity. Do you see my point now? Both ways exclude the other from themselves... So only one is correct.
Let's transfer this in effort. How much effort does it take to digest a mushroom, or whatever... in comparison to true Christian ways? What is harder?
Wouldn't the harder thing made the best outcome? Or the easy one can also do it?
That being said, can you share what psychedelics you've used and what was the outcome? I am very interested in this topic, and I want to learn more. And please use as much details as possible, even if you think "I don't have to mention that" - every detail would help me understand more, so please share them!