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posted 181 days ago by towards8 181 days ago by towards8 +4 / -0
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– SmithW1984 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

We as Christians are not called to hate the sinner but hate the sin. The jew's rejection of Christ is a grave sin but like any sinner they can repent. The prophecy of the end times is that there will be a mass conversion of the jews to Christianity.

That being said it is true that the Church Fathers have always condemned the jews and never withheld the righteous judgment of their heretical belief and degenerate ways. The only Church which follows that tradition is the Eastern Orthodox Church which is yet another prove of it being the one true Church.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

This is the teaching of the Church as evident from the writings of the Church Fathers like St. John Chrysostom and St. Cyril of Alexandria.

“A hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved...” - Romans 11:25–26

“They shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him...”

  • Zechariah 12:10

Also, you are the same person who criticizes Protestants for being too pro-Jewish, but you are the one arguing pro-Jewishly right now.

There's nothing pro jewish about what I said. I am reaffirming the position of the Church whose Fathers you quote above.

They killed the prophets, they killed the Son of God, they killed the apostles.

They were idolaters and killed many prophets in the OT and yet God sent His son through them. Even after killing Jesus, they can still repent and be saved. Paul was a pharisee who prosecuted and killed Christians - is he Babylon too? No one is damned because they are born jewish - God judges each one of us on our individual actions and heart. Anyone can repent - this is the core teaching of Christianity. Evil has no real existence, it is merely a disposition of the will against God and all evil acts are the result of disobeying God who is the ultimate good.

This is a ridiculous idea that is not the teaching of the Church and you made up in your head just like protestants tend to make shit up and misinterpret Scripture all the time.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

St. Cyril of Alexandria

“When they see Him whom they pierced — that is, when the Jews behold Christ coming again from heaven, they will recognize Him whom they denied and delivered to death. Then they shall mourn for Him, repenting of their impiety.”

St. Jerome

“Then shall they look upon Him whom they have pierced, that is, Christ, whom their fathers pierced, and they shall mourn, confessing their sin and acknowledging the true Son of God.”

— Commentary on Zechariah 12:10

Yes, it is a prophecy about Christ's crucifixion. But beside it, most Church Fathers (that you've quoted here) interpreted the verse as the future fulfillment when “the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall mourn,” meaning the jews' repentance.

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