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posted 255 days ago by towards8 255 days ago by towards8 +8 / -0
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– SmithW1984 2 points 254 days ago +2 / -0

The shitheads, or TPTB, do not provide or teach "do as thou wilt".

They are an illuminist luciferian "man as god" cult. Alister Crowley was one of their prophets and this is the main pillar of his Thelema. This creed applies to the initiated into their cabal. They may sell it to the masses through pop culture to corrupt them, but obviously the masses can't be allowed such liberty because it would lead to pure chaos and they are all about controlling chaos.

it's a big bunch of shitheads ruining life for us without clear rhyme or reason.

Just because you don't comprehend the reason doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Of course they're motivated by something. The easiest answer would be that they want power for power's sake (as stated in 1984). If one digs deeper it becomes apparent it's more than that and that the true reasons are spiritual in nature - they are moved by demonic principalities who hate everything good and true and humanity itself and want it destroyed.

There is nothing wrong with not adhering to dogma from a religion and you can still be a great person with a great life and still your soul will go the same place as any Christian, Muslim or atheist. Ie, no one knows.

What makes "a great person" differs depending on your worldview. Bill Gates may believe he's a great person and ultimately doing good for humanity. That's the whole point. If you don't adhere to a traditional dogma, you make your own piecemeal relativistic dogma in a individualistic and consumerist manner ("my truth is mine, but you can have yours - just don't be dogmatic about it"). Such "custom-tailored worldviews" are always riddled with contradictions because they borrow from incompatible worldviews. In the end it doesn't make one unique, but makes them another special snowflakes with "unique take" (much like how consumerism sells fake identities to people tied to preferences of fashion, pop music, movies, style, politics, etc - as if what you consoom is what makes you "you").

But that idea is also born out of a certain worldview which happens to be very prevalent in western society. It's by no means something natural or self-evident but a recent invention promoted by jews and masons like Crowley of course. There's even a 1970's Tavistock/SRI paper on the promotion of "challenging tradition and dogma" and suggesting secular or new-age substitutes for traditional religion among the young called Changing images of man.

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– Hate4_Zetetics 1 point 254 days ago +1 / -0

Making your own dogma isn't that, and I understand and already know the dogma about trusting myself to find my own way. I reject it. I don't agree that I am incapable and need traditional dogma in order to avoid being sucked into the temptations, distractions, addictions, deadly sins, etc.

You are at a point where you have bought onto the idea that we cannot explore spirituality so you haven't. You don't know the good that is out there within yourself. You give your mind and soul away to man made traditions that are just controlled opposition by the same powers that you despise.

Ill concede that my path usually leads to special snowflakes, confused and lost, easily swayed by all the optional debauchery available to us in this wierd deceptive place. But, dogmatically, you believe that if I say that I am different, you instantly rely on your special snowflake dogma, that I must just be fooling myself and I could not have found real truth without some religious deity. Not sure how you incorporate various forms of Buddhism into your view, but trust me, the people in Thailand don't need your God.

But most people need traditional dogma to keep them living a happy life. I took that path and held the same belief you showed me already, but I have since gone further and trusted my connection to the myself, my soul and I don't follow new age or any religion or other person's ideals. It's actually safer for people like me, but I agree, it's a unproven and unprotected path, but that's where I find the truest truth.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 253 days ago +1 / -0

temptations, distractions, addictions, deadly sins, etc.

This is what I mean - you can't rid yourself of religious dogma. For example, what is the meaning of sin outside Christianity? The concept of virtue or sin assumes objective moral law and knowledge of the good. One can't get such knowledge purely from observation or experience.

You are at a point where you have bought onto the idea that we cannot explore spirituality so you haven't. You don't know the good that is out there within yourself. You give your mind and soul away to man made traditions that are just controlled opposition by the same powers that you despise.

You can naval-gaze all you want, but that won't give you an objective standard for morality. Why do "spiritual non religious" people act as any spiritual endevour (aside from organized religion because it's considered unauthentic, because it's not entirely individualistic and subjective), is always positive for the individual? Isn't it possible that what you encounter in your spiritual pursuits are evil entities or at least entities that can be harmful for you? But no, new age people always consider their spiritual experience to be beneficial and leading them to growth (whatever they decide that means). It's self-worship and it appeals to one's pride and vanity. No wonder it's so prevalent in our narcissistic degenerate society.

About the "man made traditions" argument - it comes out of protestant criticism of the Catholic Church, making it part of a man made tradition itself. And what does that even mean? What is not man made in your worldview? Aren't you a man and aren't the traditions you make (even just for yourself) man made traditions too? The problem you have with traditional religion is that it's other men and not you making them up and that it's a tradition, meaning that it predates you and is not born out of your mind (but of course every idea you hold about the world also predates you and you just adopted it, or rather it won you over; what matters then is that you are the one who gets to pick and choose which ideas you prefer, i.e. consumerism).

Besides, no Christian would agree that Christianity is a man-made tradition because that would assume Christ is not God. So I don't follow a man-made tradition to begin with. I think people can get some truth outside the Christian tradition but it's not the whole package and it's intermixed with lies and deceptions. In the end the only thing that matters is what is true and I believe Buddhism or any other religion or ideology doesn't have a strong case for that (and I've come to Christianity late in life while being a pretty convinced atheist before that). Man is weak and susceptible to manipulation (Christianity explains this by our fallen nature) and should know better than to put all our faith in himself or his kind.

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– QuakerTheOat2 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

You have a completely installed 'belief' system. It is evidently so deeply rooted that to break free would destroy your false identity of self and you would go mad. You have convinced yourself to NEVER examine your inner being because you've been indoctrinated to believe it's evil.

It's sad really. So many people like this.

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– SmithW1984 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

Dude, I wasn't Christian for the better part of my life. I've red tons of philosophy books and did much introspection and soul-searching before I came to my current belief. It is not blind faith and I can comfortably argue for it and why it is the only truly reasonable and logically consistent position that can explain and provide justification for our reality. You don't know me and don't know what you're talking about so stop playing shrink.

But do tell, what is your worldview? What is your standard for what's good? I take it it's totally genuine and you're not subject to the things you accuse me of. But I'd be surprised if your position is not regurgitated old gnostic heresies that have been resurrected by the freemasons (jews) and popularized by the new age movement - as all antichristian ideas virtually are.

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– guywholikesDjtof2024 1 point 229 days ago +1 / -0

So how can anyone know all of this does NOT apply to you? How would anyone know this isn't all a bunch of projection and hypocrisy and accusation?

"Ohhh, i am so ELITE, ohhh he is a PEASANT,, ohhh i am ABOVE HIM!!!!!"

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