In the spiritual kingdom of Jesus Christ I need no saving. The carnal kingdom in Adam fears the goings on in the carnal world. The spiritual Kingdom in Christ is not afraid of the carnal kingdom in Adam, we're already saved. Your comment is true in the carnal realm.
Cool, so just die already. Death is salvation, so why not expedite it? Either your submission is meaningless (because the physical world doesn’t matter) or it matters and your submission is meaningless because absolutely nothing is happening and no one is coming to save you.
You know, I’ve never understood that. Is it a sin (suicide) to refuse medical treatment so that you die more quickly for the purpose of joining Christ? That’s an active role taken in the decision. Does it count? I long for death because I have no interest in living anymore. If I actively stop taking care of my body, is that suicide, even though I’m not jumping off a bridge? Why should I want to remain here when, again, absolutely nothing is happening and no one is coming to save you?
Cool, so just die already. Death is salvation, so why not expedite it?
Friend, you have the wrong idea of salvation. Ephesians 2:1-3 shows salvation as being saved from the death in Adam. In Christ is life, from the dead. The death in Adam is known as Babylon in the book of Revelation.
Either your submission is meaningless (because the physical world doesn’t matter) or it matters and your submission is meaningless because absolutely nothing is happening and no one is coming to save you.
I like you. You're arguing a false dichotomy that I don't hold. I submit to Jesus Christ alone. I need no salvation in the carnal world. I'm already standing above it.
Is it a sin (suicide) to refuse medical treatment so that you die more quickly for the purpose of joining Christ?
I'm already in Christ, friend. Medical treatment is fine for the physical body. I look at my spiritual state more than my physical state. When you take care of the spiritual, the physical often follows suit.
I long for death because I have no interest in living anymore.
You've been abused in the carnal world with no help from good spiritual doctrine.
Why should I want to remain here when, again, absolutely nothing is happening and no one is coming to save you?
Doctrines become demons of the mind.
You've been given a false gospel. Salvation is in Christ in this life. We are saved from the Adamic curse, we are reconciled to God by faith in the life and reign of Jesus Christ. When you put faith in the Living Lord Jesus Christ you recieve a new creation kingdom in Christ. You recieve the Holy Spirit by faith in the reign of Jesus Christ. You are reconciled to God, by faith, and recieve a very real new creation kingdom in Christ.
Check out my .win site for more information on Living the new creation in Christ. Why not? The false dichotomy is not serving you well.
Yeah, but why live. That’s just it. There is only pain here; there is no pain in Christ. You have to have some reason to remain physical, otherwise there’s no possible justification for continuing to do so when you have the alternative of joining Christ. So why do it. What possible “hope” is there, when no one is coming to save you and everything will only get objectively, metaphysically worse.
My existence is not getting metaphysically worse. Jesus Christ does come to save, to each individual soul, to make a conquering church. The word church means calling out to a new place. Each individual makes up the church in Christ. You're called to a new place in Christ, where the Holy Spirit is now your teacher. That is what faith in Jesus Christ brings.
The conquering church is the purpose of the book of Revelation. You in Christ, overcoming Babylon, is the whole reason for the book. Jesus Christ pays attention to each individual soul by the Holy Spirit that he sends to teach the soul how to live in Christ. That is the true dichotomy of salvation in Christ.
Here's a good verse on the topic,
Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
'No, the Canaanites (or what you would call the Cabal), were Defeated by the White Hats in 1989, and through the Nineties came the Cleanup of the entire World, to be ready in time to Start THE MOVIE that we are all Living and Watching by Sept. 11, 2001; ever since then, the White Hats have been Setting into place the New System that will replace this Satanic Model that we are still burdened with, and by now, I can assure you, they are completely finished...
Above Ground, Below Ground Military Operations were essentially completed by 2001, and since then they have been revealing to us what they have ALREADY Accomplished; however, to draw All people into this Reality, they have made it to appear as LIVE, that all of this is Happening now, like DOGE, when All of these things have already been completed...
This is why Trump is so Forceful and Confident in everything he says, like Canada becoming the 51st State, it already has happened; thus, Trump, using humor, is preparing everyone for what is to come...
Israel has been dealt with, there are NO ISSUES in the Middle East, just Holographic Images to make the Movie Believable and Relevant...there is no War with Russia and Ukraine, simply the appearance of War...not a single nation on Earth is doing anything that has not been laid out by the White Hats, who are in Total Control of World Events...
All that we are waiting for a this point is for enough People to Awaken to the Lies all around them. Once that occurs, then the FED will Die, and when the Fed dies, then Debt will be removed, including Personal Debt, Income Tax will be eliminated, Prices will Plummet, Inflation will disappear and the False Reality of endless LACK will be replaced with Eternal Abundance and Common Sense...
Everything is Ready, All is set in Place...the Old System will Crash and Burn, and then the New Earth will appear where Everything works FOR US, instead of Against Us, Changing Everyone's Outlooks on Life and Vibrational Energy, from Negative and Angry, to Positive and Filled with Love...
And once with THIS new Reality has been achieved, then the Truth will be allowed to Flow, Crushing All the Lies that have plagued us for Thousands of years, like some viral Disease...
The War is Over, the Movie is Playing, and when the Table has been set, then TRUE Thanksgiving will Reveal itself for All to See...
Just have Faith, and begin Focusing on Changing and Improving You, by coming Closer to both Father Heaven and Mother Earth, by Walking the Strait and Narrow Way of Christ Yeshua...'
Being able implies being enabled...taking possession (cain/i can) over self disables ones potential (able/abel).
Now compare "able" and "I can" with Abel the shepherd (herding sheep) and Cain the farmer (renting land)...the ability to herd is enabled by sheep, while renting out land is based on taking possession of property.
It's taking possession over sheep which transformed herding into livestock farming, which implies mass murder. Just because I CAN (cain) doesn't mean one was enABLEd (abel) to do so...
I think this type of thinking stems from inability to accept that bad things just happen, that everything may not be well in the end and that this world might not be a good place in general. So, being unable to accept reality, those people bend over backwards to "prove" that somehow, someway all that's happening is for the good. Even in the face of absolutely undeniable evil they rationalise it away as ultimately being good. It's actually quite impressive to what extent of mental gymnastics they are prepared to go in order to avoid seeing the actual truth about this world we live in.
Hate to break it to you, but no. What we currently witness happening around the world is pure evil. It may not be well in the end and not everything happens for the good. Unless humanity somehow gets its shit together, we are utterly fucked.
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NOTHING IS HAPPENING. NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE YOU.
In the spiritual kingdom of Jesus Christ I need no saving. The carnal kingdom in Adam fears the goings on in the carnal world. The spiritual Kingdom in Christ is not afraid of the carnal kingdom in Adam, we're already saved. Your comment is true in the carnal realm.
Cool, so just die already. Death is salvation, so why not expedite it? Either your submission is meaningless (because the physical world doesn’t matter) or it matters and your submission is meaningless because absolutely nothing is happening and no one is coming to save you.
You know, I’ve never understood that. Is it a sin (suicide) to refuse medical treatment so that you die more quickly for the purpose of joining Christ? That’s an active role taken in the decision. Does it count? I long for death because I have no interest in living anymore. If I actively stop taking care of my body, is that suicide, even though I’m not jumping off a bridge? Why should I want to remain here when, again, absolutely nothing is happening and no one is coming to save you?
Friend, you have the wrong idea of salvation. Ephesians 2:1-3 shows salvation as being saved from the death in Adam. In Christ is life, from the dead. The death in Adam is known as Babylon in the book of Revelation.
I like you. You're arguing a false dichotomy that I don't hold. I submit to Jesus Christ alone. I need no salvation in the carnal world. I'm already standing above it.
I'm already in Christ, friend. Medical treatment is fine for the physical body. I look at my spiritual state more than my physical state. When you take care of the spiritual, the physical often follows suit.
You've been abused in the carnal world with no help from good spiritual doctrine.
Doctrines become demons of the mind.
You've been given a false gospel. Salvation is in Christ in this life. We are saved from the Adamic curse, we are reconciled to God by faith in the life and reign of Jesus Christ. When you put faith in the Living Lord Jesus Christ you recieve a new creation kingdom in Christ. You recieve the Holy Spirit by faith in the reign of Jesus Christ. You are reconciled to God, by faith, and recieve a very real new creation kingdom in Christ.
Check out my .win site for more information on Living the new creation in Christ. Why not? The false dichotomy is not serving you well.
Yeah, but why live. That’s just it. There is only pain here; there is no pain in Christ. You have to have some reason to remain physical, otherwise there’s no possible justification for continuing to do so when you have the alternative of joining Christ. So why do it. What possible “hope” is there, when no one is coming to save you and everything will only get objectively, metaphysically worse.
My existence is not getting metaphysically worse. Jesus Christ does come to save, to each individual soul, to make a conquering church. The word church means calling out to a new place. Each individual makes up the church in Christ. You're called to a new place in Christ, where the Holy Spirit is now your teacher. That is what faith in Jesus Christ brings.
The conquering church is the purpose of the book of Revelation. You in Christ, overcoming Babylon, is the whole reason for the book. Jesus Christ pays attention to each individual soul by the Holy Spirit that he sends to teach the soul how to live in Christ. That is the true dichotomy of salvation in Christ.
Here's a good verse on the topic,
Probably not a misspelling. ABEL was murdered by CAIN.
Being able implies being enabled...taking possession (cain/i can) over self disables ones potential (able/abel).
Now compare "able" and "I can" with Abel the shepherd (herding sheep) and Cain the farmer (renting land)...the ability to herd is enabled by sheep, while renting out land is based on taking possession of property.
It's taking possession over sheep which transformed herding into livestock farming, which implies mass murder. Just because I CAN (cain) doesn't mean one was enABLEd (abel) to do so...
I think this type of thinking stems from inability to accept that bad things just happen, that everything may not be well in the end and that this world might not be a good place in general. So, being unable to accept reality, those people bend over backwards to "prove" that somehow, someway all that's happening is for the good. Even in the face of absolutely undeniable evil they rationalise it away as ultimately being good. It's actually quite impressive to what extent of mental gymnastics they are prepared to go in order to avoid seeing the actual truth about this world we live in.
Hate to break it to you, but no. What we currently witness happening around the world is pure evil. It may not be well in the end and not everything happens for the good. Unless humanity somehow gets its shit together, we are utterly fucked.
If you focus on just the carnal world, that leads to your fatalism.
In the Spirit is life. As you progress from the spiritual you can see and have faith in all things working for good.
You can become and instrument of good.