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"Zyklon B" it's not a gas but like pebble rocks. So they'd shovel that down 4 little chimneys in the room. It's not a "gas". Better vent out that room after. You get this "dangerous goods" on your outfit when trying to haul the bodies into the incinerator. It's not an efficient method to kill people (media.scored.co)
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These numbers are pretty crazy though.. like that 6hr 30min doc, I'm up to what.. 5 hours 15min. When they talk about them firing stuff up and you picture all the planes or whatever. That's a major undertaking, that many, "whatever", heading out. Or building that.

You gotta start to wonder.. was there even that many of this damn equipment? You do see like the ships or the planes.. but fuck man.. like check those numbers on just normal "war".

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They nailed them with the "gasoline", though, eh..

You'd think you could fire up better tech. Like just my stuff, surfing around.. this electric motor, hooked up to an alternator. Get some gears in between, revving the alternator faster. How about a bicycle, when you pedal and gradually get 'er goin.. back wheel spins fast. Well, rig a chain from that back wheel, to a second bicycle. Wouldn't that 2nd back wheel turn super fast?

I don't know.. in recent seasons, wondered about other methods, you could throw in there, combine.. to get that alternator revving faster.

Stuff like how does a pulley work. Things like "turbines". Then just water going downwards in a spiral and you pump it back up.

Steam engines.. remember those. Well.. along my research.. this Jim Griggs hydrosonic pump. Was an air conditioner guy who noticed when pipes vibrating fast, they'd do steam, without boiling. Now you've got steam, you can fire up a steam engine.

Here.. let me get more.. this guy spinning a barbell.. on the end of a stick.. Rev it super fast with a drill.. then now your barbell is spinning.. on the end of this stick, or pole... now you can easily lift it. Why the hell would this occur. So that's being able to move heavy weight, just by spinning it.

Keep thinking and combining things.. you can get that alternator revving fast. You do not need "petrol", like what cluster-fucked Hitler. That's why they lost the war.

So.. i'm not buyin it, by just not having gas they'd go.. "oh well" and lose.

Meanwhile, during this time.. they're researching into the occult. Supernatural things that'd go on from that. The dr tests there while they're about to croak. Odd things would go on there.

Then.. what's this about them heading in subs to antarctica. Let me check.


did the nazis head out to antarctica in subs? any reports on that?

ChatGPT said:

There are rumors and conspiracy theories suggesting that the Nazis fled to Antarctica in submarines toward the end of World War II. However, there is no solid historical evidence to support this.

Where Did This Idea Come From?

U-Boat Surrenders

Two German U-boats, U-530 and U-977, surrendered in Argentina months after the war ended. This fueled speculation that they had dropped off high-ranking Nazis in Antarctica or South America.

Operation Highjump (1946-47)

The U.S. Navy, led by Admiral Richard Byrd, launched Operation Highjump, a large-scale Antarctic expedition. Some theorists claim it was a secret mission to hunt down a Nazi base.

Neuschwabenland & Nazi Expeditions

In 1938-39, Germany sent an expedition to Neuschwabenland (Queen Maud Land) in Antarctica. Some believe this was to establish a secret base.

The “Base 211” Myth

Conspiracies claim that the Nazis built an underground fortress in Antarctica called Base 211 where they continued secret research, possibly even on UFOs.

What Does the Evidence Say?

No Proof of a Nazi Base: There are no declassified documents, satellite images, or scientific surveys confirming a Nazi base in Antarctica.

U-Boat Records Don’t Support It: German naval records do not indicate any significant operations toward Antarctica.

Operation Highjump Wasn’t a Military Battle: While large, it was officially a reconnaissance and training mission. There were no reports of conflict.

While the story makes for an interesting legend, there is no strong evidence to prove Nazis fled to Antarctica in submarines. Would you like to explore other strange WWII stories?

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Bookmarked this, but it's on the bookmarks bar to check.

Index of /more/Akashic Drive/Free Energy and ZPE Devices/

I'm so backed up, eh.. with "to do" next.. like just got this 3 vinyl records CFR transcript.. jeez..

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so why were they Germans killing them.. they didn't like them?

ChatGPT said:

The Nazis’ mass murder of Jews and other groups wasn’t just about dislike—it was based on a deep-rooted ideology of racial supremacy, extreme nationalism, and conspiracy theories.

Why Did the Nazis Kill Millions?

Antisemitism & Racism

The Nazis believed in a racial hierarchy, with "Aryans" (Germans of pure Nordic descent) at the top and Jews, Slavs, Roma, and others as inferior.

They blamed Jews for Germany’s problems, including its defeat in WWI, the economic crisis, and Communism.

The "Jewish Conspiracy" Myth

Hitler and the Nazis spread false ideas that Jews secretly controlled banks, media, and politics, working against Germany.

They framed them as both capitalist exploiters (bankers) and Communist revolutionaries, creating an excuse to target them.

"Lebensraum" (Living Space) Policy

The Nazis wanted to expand eastward (especially into Poland and the Soviet Union) to gain land for Germans.

This meant removing or enslaving the people who lived there—Jews, Slavs, and others.

The "Final Solution" (1941-1945)

Initially, the Nazis forced Jews into ghettos and used them for slave labor.

In 1941, after invading the Soviet Union, mass shootings by Einsatzgruppen (Nazi death squads) began.

By 1942, the Nazis decided extermination was the most "efficient" way to get rid of Jews, leading to the creation of death camps like Auschwitz.

Other Victims

While Jews were the primary target (6 million murdered), the Nazis also killed:

Poles & Slavs (seen as subhuman)

Roma (Gypsies)

Soviet POWs

Disabled people (euthanasia programs)

LGBTQ+ individuals

Political opponents (Communists, Socialists, resistance fighters)

Conclusion

The Holocaust wasn’t just about hatred—it was a systematic, state-sponsored genocide driven by Nazi ideology. It was about reshaping Europe into a "racially pure" German empire, using propaganda, laws, and industrialized mass murder to eliminate those they saw as enemies.

You said:

well how can they take somebody out if they're a bit mixed with another race, where it might be hard to tell..

ChatGPT said:

The Nazis developed racial laws and pseudo-scientific methods to classify people, even if their ancestry wasn’t obvious. They relied on documents, physical traits, and ancestry tracing rather than just appearance.

How Did the Nazis Identify "Mixed" Individuals?

  1. Nuremberg Laws (1935) – Defining Jewish Identity

The Nuremberg Laws classified people based on ancestry, not religion or appearance:

"Full Jew" – Anyone with three or four Jewish grandparents, no matter their beliefs.

"Mischling (Mixed-race)" – People with one or two Jewish grandparents.

Mischling of the 1st degree – Two Jewish grandparents.

Mischling of the 2nd degree – One Jewish grandparent.

Mixed individuals weren’t always targeted immediately, but many lost rights, were sterilized, or later deported to camps.

  1. Checking Birth Records & Religious History

The Nazis searched birth and baptism records to trace Jewish ancestry. Even if someone looked "German," their Jewish grandparents or great-grandparents could mark them for persecution.

  1. Physical "Race Science" (Pseudoscience)

Nazi racial scientists measured skull shape, nose size, hair texture, and eye color to categorize people. This was completely unscientific but used to justify discrimination.

  1. Forced Confessions & Informants

In Nazi Germany, people denounced their neighbors out of fear, personal grudges, or loyalty to the regime. Some people with hidden Jewish ancestry were betrayed by acquaintances.

What Happened to Mixed Individuals?

Some "Aryan-looking" Mischlings could live relatively undisturbed, but many faced discrimination.

Many were sterilized to prevent them from having children. By 1944, even Mischlings were being sent to concentration camps.

So, even if someone looked German, the Nazis had legal, bureaucratic, and racial "tests" to decide their fate.


Well.. I guess these guys weren't gonna be invading Scandinavia, eh. See that Light hair distrubution map of the area.

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They had plenty of practice with the physically/mentally ill first, so I dont actually doubt it that much. Do I think the numbers are exaggerated a bit, prolly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulIjZ7Hbi7Y

At the end the narrator says, its important to remember what happened so we dont let it happen again. This is the same thing with residential school children who never made it back home. The church/government wanted the indians shit and that was one way they did it.

What goal does the elite have where this makes any sense.

Nah lets pretend its all fake and were gonna cheer when our countries start doing it?!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13966919/doctor-provides-euthanasia-Canada-pressured-kill-people-theyre-poor.html

Were fucked.

Theo Boer, professor of health care ethics at Groningen University in the Netherlands, told the AP: ‘Canada seems to be providing euthanasia for social reasons, when people don't have the financial means, which would be a big taboo in Europe.

‘That may be what Canadians want, but they would still benefit from some honest self-reflection about what is going on.’

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I guess the worker has to go grab them after they're dead and haul them into the incinerator. How was that work process there for getting the bodies into the incinerator. What did that "grill" look like, right. Lemme go look this up.

https://www.dw.com/en/the-german-company-that-enabled-the-holocaust/a-52128223

The German company that enabled the Holocaust

Jacek Lepiarz January 23, 2020

"Topf & Sons helped make the Holocaust possible by building incinerators for Nazi concentration camps. After the war, the owners saw themselves as victims, with only one family member standing up to take responsibility."

ok so they got a picture there.. where it'd be like what they do these days but they'd be in a coffin. So here I guess they just fire 'em in there on those horizontal rails. They got like a dozen chambers there.. But when you look up..

Incineration Chamber Auschwitz

Looks like just 2 going on. Oh you can be sure they got their "numbers" right, eh.


Incineration Chamber Auschwitz.. how many did they have, so like how many bodies could they deal with at a time?

ChatGPT said:

Auschwitz had multiple crematoria with industrial-scale furnaces designed to dispose of the massive number of victims.

Crematoria at Auschwitz-Birkenau:

Crematoria II & III – Each had five triple-muffle furnaces, meaning 15 burning chambers per building. Each chamber could incinerate 2-3 corpses at once, with a total capacity of about 1,440 bodies per day per crematorium under peak operation.

Crematoria IV & V – These had eight double-muffle furnaces total (four per building), with a slightly lower capacity—around 768 bodies per day per crematorium.

Crematorium I (at the main Auschwitz camp) – A smaller facility with six single-muffle furnaces, handling around 340 bodies per day before it was decommissioned.

Overall Capacity:

At full operation, all crematoria could theoretically cremate around 4,756 bodies per day. However, the process wasn't perfectly efficient, and at times, open-pit burning was also used when the crematoria were overwhelmed, especially in 1944 during the mass deportations of Hungarian Jews.

It was an industrialized system of mass murder, designed for speed and efficiency.


But yeah.. this Zyklon B, there.. seems like a "messy" method to try and take people out. Cause you gotta have your workers get this shit on them, eh. Meanwhile, after the war they were just hanging them. I can understand the cost of bullets, so they don't use that.

So.. this Zyklon B.. once they dump it down the chimney.. it's "done" and they'd have to not re-use it.. they'd have to throw that out and use a new batch for another round?

ChatGPT said:

Yeah, Zyklon B was a one-time-use chemical. Once the pellets were exposed to air, the hydrogen cyanide (HCN) would start evaporating and spreading as a gas. After the execution, the remaining granules were essentially useless because they had already released their poison.

So, for each gassing, they had to use a fresh batch of Zyklon B. The spent granules were swept up and disposed of, likely dumped outside or buried. The Nazis had a steady supply from the manufacturer, Degesch (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung), and ordered large quantities under the pretense of pest control.

Each chamber required a certain dosage of Zyklon B depending on the room size and the number of people inside. The heat and humidity in the packed chamber sped up the gas release, so the process usually took 10-20 minutes.


I don't know.. just trying to picture body disposal here.. 6M.. picture a stadium. Their numbers are adding up.. but you try to deal with taking out 4000 people a day. That's a lot of work.


how many of the 6m got taken out in Auschwitz ChatGPT said: Auschwitz was the deadliest Nazi concentration and extermination camp, responsible for the murder of approximately 1.1 million people out of the estimated 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust.

Breakdown of Victims at Auschwitz: Jews: ~1 million Poles: ~70,000–75,000 Roma (Gypsies): ~21,000 Soviet POWs: ~15,000 Other prisoners (resistance members, disabled, etc.): ~10,000–15,000 Most of the Jewish victims were killed in gas chambers upon arrival, especially from 1942 to 1944. Others died from starvation, disease, executions, forced labor, or medical experiments.

The largest single wave of mass murder happened in mid-1944, during the deportation of 437,000 Hungarian Jews, when the crematoria and even open-air pits were working at maximum capacity.

You said:

So this was going on in only 2 years?

ChatGPT said:

The mass killings at Auschwitz ramped up in 1942 and peaked between 1943 and 1944, so the deadliest phase of the extermination lasted about two and a half years.

Timeline of Mass Murder at Auschwitz:

1940-1941 – Auschwitz was initially set up as a concentration camp for Polish prisoners and Soviet POWs. Executions and starvation were common, but mass gassings hadn't begun yet.

1942 – The Nazis expanded Auschwitz with Birkenau (Auschwitz II), adding gas chambers and crematoria. Large-scale gassings of Jews and Roma began as part of the Final Solution.

1943-1944 – Auschwitz became the largest extermination center, killing Jews from across occupied Europe. The crematoria operated at full capacity, and in mid-1944, during the Hungarian deportations, open-pit burning was used to handle the overflow.

Late 1944 – As the Soviet army approached, the Nazis began dismantling the gas chambers and crematoria to destroy evidence.

January 1945 – Auschwitz was evacuated, and the remaining prisoners were sent on death marches. The Soviets liberated the camp on January 27, 1945, finding about 7,000 survivors.

So while Auschwitz operated for almost five years, the industrialized mass murder phase lasted about 2.5 years, with 1943-1944 being the deadliest period.

You said:

How many days was that? total number of days

ChatGPT said:

If we count from the start of mass gassings in early 1942 to the last gassing in late 1944, the extermination phase lasted approximately:

Early 1942 to late 1944 → Around 3 years 3 years ≈ 1,095 days

If you want a more exact range, we could estimate:

First mass gassing: Spring 1942 (approx. March/April)

Last gassing: November 1944

From April 1942 to November 1944, that’s about 950–960 days of systematic mass murder.


Taking half an hour to get rid of 1 guy though.. so, somebody check if this math adds up.


how long would it take for a body to incinerate?

ChatGPT said:

In the Auschwitz crematoria, each body took about 20–30 minutes to incinerate, but the process wasn’t as straightforward as burning one body at a time. The Nazis optimized the system for speed and efficiency by:

Burning multiple bodies at once (usually 2–3 per muffle, sometimes more).

Using body fat as fuel—bodies with more fat helped accelerate the combustion of others.

Keeping furnaces running continuously so they stayed at high temperatures (over 1,000°C / 1,832°F).

Even with these “efficiencies,” there were still too many bodies for the crematoria to handle at peak times, so open-air pits were also used, especially in mid-1944 during the Hungarian deportations. In these pits, bodies could burn in as little as 5–10 minutes, though it was a much more gruesome and uncontrolled process.

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– newfunturistic [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Oh, so this is where you get the dealing with how the bodies have "dangerous goods" all over them.


Cleaning and Collecting Bodies

In some cases, prisoners who survived were forced to work in the most gruesome aspects of the camp's operations, such as collecting the bodies of those who died from gassing, starvation, or disease. They would be ordered to remove the bodies from the gas chambers, transport them to the crematoria, and incinerate them.

This type of work often involved cleaning up after the gassing process, removing the corpses from the gas chambers, and dealing with the aftermath of mass executions. Those who were assigned to this work often had to carry out their tasks under threat of death.


So they're not really doing any work.. they're just standing by in their gas outfit, pointing a gun at them.

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