I guess the worker has to go grab them after they're dead and haul them into the incinerator. How was that work process there for getting the bodies into the incinerator. What did that "grill" look like, right. Lemme go look this up.
"Topf & Sons helped make the Holocaust possible by building incinerators for Nazi concentration camps. After the war, the owners saw themselves as victims, with only one family member standing up to take responsibility."
ok so they got a picture there.. where it'd be like what they do these days but they'd be in a coffin. So here I guess they just fire 'em in there on those horizontal rails. They got like a dozen chambers there.. But when you look up..
Incineration Chamber Auschwitz
Looks like just 2 going on. Oh you can be sure they got their "numbers" right, eh.
Incineration Chamber Auschwitz.. how many did they have, so like how many bodies could they deal with at a time?
ChatGPT said:
Auschwitz had multiple crematoria with industrial-scale furnaces designed to dispose of the massive number of victims.
Crematoria at Auschwitz-Birkenau:
Crematoria II & III – Each had five triple-muffle furnaces, meaning 15 burning chambers per building. Each chamber could incinerate 2-3 corpses at once, with a total capacity of about 1,440 bodies per day per crematorium under peak operation.
Crematoria IV & V – These had eight double-muffle furnaces total (four per building), with a slightly lower capacity—around 768 bodies per day per crematorium.
Crematorium I (at the main Auschwitz camp) – A smaller facility with six single-muffle furnaces, handling around 340 bodies per day before it was decommissioned.
Overall Capacity:
At full operation, all crematoria could theoretically cremate around 4,756 bodies per day. However, the process wasn't perfectly efficient, and at times, open-pit burning was also used when the crematoria were overwhelmed, especially in 1944 during the mass deportations of Hungarian Jews.
It was an industrialized system of mass murder, designed for speed and efficiency.
But yeah.. this Zyklon B, there.. seems like a "messy" method to try and take people out. Cause you gotta have your workers get this shit on them, eh. Meanwhile, after the war they were just hanging them. I can understand the cost of bullets, so they don't use that.
So.. this Zyklon B.. once they dump it down the chimney.. it's "done" and they'd have to not re-use it.. they'd have to throw that out and use a new batch for another round?
ChatGPT said:
Yeah, Zyklon B was a one-time-use chemical. Once the pellets were exposed to air, the hydrogen cyanide (HCN) would start evaporating and spreading as a gas. After the execution, the remaining granules were essentially useless because they had already released their poison.
So, for each gassing, they had to use a fresh batch of Zyklon B. The spent granules were swept up and disposed of, likely dumped outside or buried. The Nazis had a steady supply from the manufacturer, Degesch (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung), and ordered large quantities under the pretense of pest control.
Each chamber required a certain dosage of Zyklon B depending on the room size and the number of people inside. The heat and humidity in the packed chamber sped up the gas release, so the process usually took 10-20 minutes.
I don't know.. just trying to picture body disposal here.. 6M.. picture a stadium. Their numbers are adding up.. but you try to deal with taking out 4000 people a day. That's a lot of work.
how many of the 6m got taken out in Auschwitz
ChatGPT said:
Auschwitz was the deadliest Nazi concentration and extermination camp, responsible for the murder of approximately 1.1 million people out of the estimated 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust.
Breakdown of Victims at Auschwitz:
Jews: ~1 million
Poles: ~70,000–75,000
Roma (Gypsies): ~21,000
Soviet POWs: ~15,000
Other prisoners (resistance members, disabled, etc.): ~10,000–15,000
Most of the Jewish victims were killed in gas chambers upon arrival, especially from 1942 to 1944. Others died from starvation, disease, executions, forced labor, or medical experiments.
The largest single wave of mass murder happened in mid-1944, during the deportation of 437,000 Hungarian Jews, when the crematoria and even open-air pits were working at maximum capacity.
You said:
So this was going on in only 2 years?
ChatGPT said:
The mass killings at Auschwitz ramped up in 1942 and peaked between 1943 and 1944, so the deadliest phase of the extermination lasted about two and a half years.
Timeline of Mass Murder at Auschwitz:
1940-1941 – Auschwitz was initially set up as a concentration camp for Polish prisoners and Soviet POWs. Executions and starvation were common, but mass gassings hadn't begun yet.
1942 – The Nazis expanded Auschwitz with Birkenau (Auschwitz II), adding gas chambers and crematoria. Large-scale gassings of Jews and Roma began as part of the Final Solution.
1943-1944 – Auschwitz became the largest extermination center, killing Jews from across occupied Europe. The crematoria operated at full capacity, and in mid-1944, during the Hungarian deportations, open-pit burning was used to handle the overflow.
Late 1944 – As the Soviet army approached, the Nazis began dismantling the gas chambers and crematoria to destroy evidence.
January 1945 – Auschwitz was evacuated, and the remaining prisoners were sent on death marches. The Soviets liberated the camp on January 27, 1945, finding about 7,000 survivors.
So while Auschwitz operated for almost five years, the industrialized mass murder phase lasted about 2.5 years, with 1943-1944 being the deadliest period.
You said:
How many days was that? total number of days
ChatGPT said:
If we count from the start of mass gassings in early 1942 to the last gassing in late 1944, the extermination phase lasted approximately:
Early 1942 to late 1944 → Around 3 years
3 years ≈ 1,095 days
If you want a more exact range, we could estimate:
First mass gassing: Spring 1942 (approx. March/April)
Last gassing: November 1944
From April 1942 to November 1944, that’s about 950–960 days of systematic mass murder.
Taking half an hour to get rid of 1 guy though.. so, somebody check if this math adds up.
how long would it take for a body to incinerate?
ChatGPT said:
In the Auschwitz crematoria, each body took about 20–30 minutes to incinerate, but the process wasn’t as straightforward as burning one body at a time. The Nazis optimized the system for speed and efficiency by:
Burning multiple bodies at once (usually 2–3 per muffle, sometimes more).
Using body fat as fuel—bodies with more fat helped accelerate the combustion of others.
Keeping furnaces running continuously so they stayed at high temperatures (over 1,000°C / 1,832°F).
Even with these “efficiencies,” there were still too many bodies for the crematoria to handle at peak times, so open-air pits were also used, especially in mid-1944 during the Hungarian deportations. In these pits, bodies could burn in as little as 5–10 minutes, though it was a much more gruesome and uncontrolled process.
I guess the worker has to go grab them after they're dead and haul them into the incinerator. How was that work process there for getting the bodies into the incinerator. What did that "grill" look like, right. Lemme go look this up.
https://www.dw.com/en/the-german-company-that-enabled-the-holocaust/a-52128223
The German company that enabled the Holocaust
Jacek Lepiarz January 23, 2020
"Topf & Sons helped make the Holocaust possible by building incinerators for Nazi concentration camps. After the war, the owners saw themselves as victims, with only one family member standing up to take responsibility."
ok so they got a picture there.. where it'd be like what they do these days but they'd be in a coffin. So here I guess they just fire 'em in there on those horizontal rails. They got like a dozen chambers there.. But when you look up..
Incineration Chamber Auschwitz
Looks like just 2 going on. Oh you can be sure they got their "numbers" right, eh.
Incineration Chamber Auschwitz.. how many did they have, so like how many bodies could they deal with at a time?
ChatGPT said:
Auschwitz had multiple crematoria with industrial-scale furnaces designed to dispose of the massive number of victims.
Crematoria at Auschwitz-Birkenau:
Crematoria II & III – Each had five triple-muffle furnaces, meaning 15 burning chambers per building. Each chamber could incinerate 2-3 corpses at once, with a total capacity of about 1,440 bodies per day per crematorium under peak operation.
Crematoria IV & V – These had eight double-muffle furnaces total (four per building), with a slightly lower capacity—around 768 bodies per day per crematorium.
Crematorium I (at the main Auschwitz camp) – A smaller facility with six single-muffle furnaces, handling around 340 bodies per day before it was decommissioned.
Overall Capacity:
At full operation, all crematoria could theoretically cremate around 4,756 bodies per day. However, the process wasn't perfectly efficient, and at times, open-pit burning was also used when the crematoria were overwhelmed, especially in 1944 during the mass deportations of Hungarian Jews.
It was an industrialized system of mass murder, designed for speed and efficiency.
But yeah.. this Zyklon B, there.. seems like a "messy" method to try and take people out. Cause you gotta have your workers get this shit on them, eh. Meanwhile, after the war they were just hanging them. I can understand the cost of bullets, so they don't use that.
So.. this Zyklon B.. once they dump it down the chimney.. it's "done" and they'd have to not re-use it.. they'd have to throw that out and use a new batch for another round?
ChatGPT said:
Yeah, Zyklon B was a one-time-use chemical. Once the pellets were exposed to air, the hydrogen cyanide (HCN) would start evaporating and spreading as a gas. After the execution, the remaining granules were essentially useless because they had already released their poison.
So, for each gassing, they had to use a fresh batch of Zyklon B. The spent granules were swept up and disposed of, likely dumped outside or buried. The Nazis had a steady supply from the manufacturer, Degesch (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung), and ordered large quantities under the pretense of pest control.
Each chamber required a certain dosage of Zyklon B depending on the room size and the number of people inside. The heat and humidity in the packed chamber sped up the gas release, so the process usually took 10-20 minutes.
I don't know.. just trying to picture body disposal here.. 6M.. picture a stadium. Their numbers are adding up.. but you try to deal with taking out 4000 people a day. That's a lot of work.
how many of the 6m got taken out in Auschwitz ChatGPT said: Auschwitz was the deadliest Nazi concentration and extermination camp, responsible for the murder of approximately 1.1 million people out of the estimated 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust.
Breakdown of Victims at Auschwitz: Jews: ~1 million Poles: ~70,000–75,000 Roma (Gypsies): ~21,000 Soviet POWs: ~15,000 Other prisoners (resistance members, disabled, etc.): ~10,000–15,000 Most of the Jewish victims were killed in gas chambers upon arrival, especially from 1942 to 1944. Others died from starvation, disease, executions, forced labor, or medical experiments.
The largest single wave of mass murder happened in mid-1944, during the deportation of 437,000 Hungarian Jews, when the crematoria and even open-air pits were working at maximum capacity.
You said:
So this was going on in only 2 years?
ChatGPT said:
The mass killings at Auschwitz ramped up in 1942 and peaked between 1943 and 1944, so the deadliest phase of the extermination lasted about two and a half years.
Timeline of Mass Murder at Auschwitz:
1940-1941 – Auschwitz was initially set up as a concentration camp for Polish prisoners and Soviet POWs. Executions and starvation were common, but mass gassings hadn't begun yet.
1942 – The Nazis expanded Auschwitz with Birkenau (Auschwitz II), adding gas chambers and crematoria. Large-scale gassings of Jews and Roma began as part of the Final Solution.
1943-1944 – Auschwitz became the largest extermination center, killing Jews from across occupied Europe. The crematoria operated at full capacity, and in mid-1944, during the Hungarian deportations, open-pit burning was used to handle the overflow.
Late 1944 – As the Soviet army approached, the Nazis began dismantling the gas chambers and crematoria to destroy evidence.
January 1945 – Auschwitz was evacuated, and the remaining prisoners were sent on death marches. The Soviets liberated the camp on January 27, 1945, finding about 7,000 survivors.
So while Auschwitz operated for almost five years, the industrialized mass murder phase lasted about 2.5 years, with 1943-1944 being the deadliest period.
You said:
How many days was that? total number of days
ChatGPT said:
If we count from the start of mass gassings in early 1942 to the last gassing in late 1944, the extermination phase lasted approximately:
Early 1942 to late 1944 → Around 3 years 3 years ≈ 1,095 days
If you want a more exact range, we could estimate:
First mass gassing: Spring 1942 (approx. March/April)
Last gassing: November 1944
From April 1942 to November 1944, that’s about 950–960 days of systematic mass murder.
Taking half an hour to get rid of 1 guy though.. so, somebody check if this math adds up.
how long would it take for a body to incinerate?
ChatGPT said:
In the Auschwitz crematoria, each body took about 20–30 minutes to incinerate, but the process wasn’t as straightforward as burning one body at a time. The Nazis optimized the system for speed and efficiency by:
Burning multiple bodies at once (usually 2–3 per muffle, sometimes more).
Using body fat as fuel—bodies with more fat helped accelerate the combustion of others.
Keeping furnaces running continuously so they stayed at high temperatures (over 1,000°C / 1,832°F).
Even with these “efficiencies,” there were still too many bodies for the crematoria to handle at peak times, so open-air pits were also used, especially in mid-1944 during the Hungarian deportations. In these pits, bodies could burn in as little as 5–10 minutes, though it was a much more gruesome and uncontrolled process.