Deepseek was around before Trump's announcement, I saw it on huggingface a week or two ago. Perhaps the timing of the announcement and launch of a consumer facing app were timed to do this. But really, silicon valley is a huge racket and AI is an even bigger one, so I welcome the exposure of the stupidity
Same. And yes, like the scamdemic, there's been rumor about Chinas "more efficient model" it for months.
It's all been a scam, it really needed to stop, because AI bullshit was sucking up and destroying all sorts of money and resources, to basically just parrot back (plagiarize) shit.
Large ANN training need a terabytes of data and billions of epochs(iterations) to train one variant. If you have to apply some constraints (in math sense) on it, you have to do whole training thing many times, proportionally to number of constraints. Each adjustment change the whole ANN, so you need to train it completely from the ground after you made change to apply constraint. Mutually exclusive constraints makes things much worse, you need dozens of training cycles for it with little chance to succeed at all.
West need orders of magnitude more constraints than China.
F.e., for LLMs, Chineese constraints are just "don't mention CCP in negative sense" and "don't allow antichineese things". West on the other side have to care about tons of many mutually exclusive things.
So, few training passes will be enough for China, but West need thousands, if not millions training cycles and adjustments. China could do its LLM in a month on a moderate processing power, while West need orders of magnitude more power to fit ANN to all Western constraints in observable time.
So like back in the late 90's, I know a number of people who got burned in the fiber-optic game when it was red-hot... Same story... When they figured out they didn't need to lay more cables, but could just improve the efficiency of the transmit/receive at the end of the nodes, the whole industry crashed.
Deepseek was around before Trump's announcement, I saw it on huggingface a week or two ago. Perhaps the timing of the announcement and launch of a consumer facing app were timed to do this. But really, silicon valley is a huge racket and AI is an even bigger one, so I welcome the exposure of the stupidity
Same. And yes, like the scamdemic, there's been rumor about Chinas "more efficient model" it for months.
It's all been a scam, it really needed to stop, because AI bullshit was sucking up and destroying all sorts of money and resources, to basically just parrot back (plagiarize) shit.
Large ANN training need a terabytes of data and billions of epochs(iterations) to train one variant. If you have to apply some constraints (in math sense) on it, you have to do whole training thing many times, proportionally to number of constraints. Each adjustment change the whole ANN, so you need to train it completely from the ground after you made change to apply constraint. Mutually exclusive constraints makes things much worse, you need dozens of training cycles for it with little chance to succeed at all.
West need orders of magnitude more constraints than China. F.e., for LLMs, Chineese constraints are just "don't mention CCP in negative sense" and "don't allow antichineese things". West on the other side have to care about tons of many mutually exclusive things.
So, few training passes will be enough for China, but West need thousands, if not millions training cycles and adjustments. China could do its LLM in a month on a moderate processing power, while West need orders of magnitude more power to fit ANN to all Western constraints in observable time.
Something like that.
I don't think the technology matters, just the narrative. 🤷♂️ (AI is fundamentally bullshit IMO, anyway)
The "Stargate" thing made no sense at the time, wrong people, MRNA vaccine mentions, price tag 500x more then necessary...
But now I see it was for this. They wanted eyeballs on it, so they could torch it all.
I bet we see a new "lock-step" narrative develop here shortly.
I'm here for it. The wheels were coming off anyway. AI was always skating on thin ice and promises of a highly unlikely AGI.
Another possibility is this will underscore the American need to invest in AI to stay ahead, and increase legal (Indian) immigration to do so
Possible... But I don't know...
They published it as free-ware 😂
So like back in the late 90's, I know a number of people who got burned in the fiber-optic game when it was red-hot... Same story... When they figured out they didn't need to lay more cables, but could just improve the efficiency of the transmit/receive at the end of the nodes, the whole industry crashed.
Yeah I don't think it will underscore anu actual need, but be used to push the theater. Only time will tell
When I say "spoiled by **China".. I mean probably by western interest working in China to coordinate this upset.
All of a sudden
To crash the economy on Heel Trump, which was always very transparent.