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Rogan and Trump talk about aliens for four minutes (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by Mad_King_Kalak 1 year ago by Mad_King_Kalak +11 / -1
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– SmithW1984 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Sure, there is no explicit teaching on darwinism too but such propositions have entailments that contradict the Church teachings. ETs make sense in Christianity as being angels/demons only.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Depends on what aspects of darwinism you're using. God most certainly could have used evolution as the means to create the first fully human beings of Adam and Eve.

As for the alien demon hypothesis, I am going to outsource this to Jimmy Akin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LDj2By1JLM

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– SmithW1984 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Depends on what aspects of darwinism you're using. God most certainly could have used evolution as the means to create the first fully human beings of Adam and Eve.

No, because evolution as we understand it presupposes death before the fall. This has been condemned by the ecumenical councils. They also condemned all metaphorical interpretations of the creation story in Genesis and one can't read a natural determined process like evolution in it if the story is taken literally. Also, what did man evolve from? Did he possess the image and likeness of God in those previous stages and if he did, why did he have to continue evolving? When did that qualitative transition during that process occur (when did man acquire free will)?

As for the alien demon hypothesis, I am going to outsource this to Jimmy Akin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LDj2By1JLM

I'll check it. Here's where I got my understanding on aliens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxcyYUzYFEE

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Death occurs before the fall, just not for humans, who ate from the tree of life. When the Bible says death came into the world due to Adam's sin, it only mentions humans.

The creation story in Genesis, of the two of them, the one that deals with Adam and Eve, can be, by good Christians, accepted as purely allegorical. Our first ancestors disobeyed God in some way, and thus we have original sin.

From a scientific perspective, the universe is billions of years old and stars have winked out of existence before man first drew breath.

I'm check your video out too, but at first blush, it's akin to others, such as Taylor Marshall, so make the aliens = demons arguement.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Death occurs before the fall, just not for humans, who ate from the tree of life. When the Bible says death came into the world due to Adam's sin, it only mentions humans.

That's not what the Church teaches. God is life. God created everything and it was good. Therefore death is the moving away from God which only took place when Adam and Eve disobeyed God through their own free will. The Garden of Eden was paradise and there's no death in paradise. There was no death and no evil before the fall period. The first death of a living being was the animal that was used for it's skin to make their garments. The fall of man changed the whole nature of the world - it was cosmic in scope. This is the dogmatic teaching of both the Catholic and the Orthodox Churches and it's been so since the first ecumenical councils.

The creation story in Genesis, of the two of them, the one that deals with Adam and Eve, can be, by good Christians, accepted as purely allegorical. Our first ancestors disobeyed God in some way, and thus we have original sin.

Again, not what the Church teaches. This was a common heresy committed by the early gnostics. I believe Origen was excommunicated because of his free interpretation of Genesis. This may fly with gnostics, kabbalists, Jungians and Jordan Peterson but it's not a Christian interpretation.

From a scientific perspective, the universe is billions of years old and stars have winked out of existence before man first drew breath.

Where's the evidence of that? Is this real science at all or just Carl DeGrasse Dawkins story time for scientismo goobers? Has this been demonstrated using the scientific method? Why would a Christian take this wild speculation about what happened billions of years ago (which is based on pure faith and baseless assumptions of the nature of the universe btw) and prefer it to God's own revelation?

You're doing freestyle gnostic new-agey interpretation of Scripture and that's why I called you protestant. As a Catholic you're supposed to follow the teachings and dogmas of the RC Church as the sole authority on theological matters and correct your views when they diverge.

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