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Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is a woman, sorta. (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 1 year ago by iloveturtles 1 year ago by iloveturtles +5 / -1
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– iloveturtles [S] -2 points 1 year ago +1 / -3

What if you have a Y chromosome but are born with a vagina and no penis. How do you square that circle? Historically (at least before genetic testing) gender was determined by what you have between your legs.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

What if you have a Y chromosome but are born with a vagina and no penis.

That's possible only if it is XXY, X0+XY or XX+XY mutation. In any case it could not be a woman. Woman is XX. Man is XY. Everything else, regardless of havimg vagina or penis or both, or none is a deviation. Mutant. And 100% not a woman.

There is no such thing as what now named "gender". There is only two biological sexes and rare mutations.

But really, completely another thing is important. It is absolutely clear and obvious that fucking "professional sports" slave owners intentionally search and enslave that rare mutants with a goal to cheat in "competitions" using advantage (larger strength, so much less training and mediacation necessary) of such mutants over woman. Having two of that extremely rare mutants in one competition proves undoubtedly that such search and enslavement done purposedly and intentionally.

Interesting that both mutants was not very succesfull in previous competitions with women, like they was brought to competition without any serious training in the hope that their advantage will be enough to win. But now looks like they are much more succesfull. This also proves that even a little (only few years) training allow mutants defeat normal women who spent all their life in endless work-outs.

Such mutations are extremely rare, around 0.007%, but they are thoroughly searched and used in "professional sports" since beginning of 20 century when sport become busines.

As for me, this is absolutely sick and disgusting. Search for people with such mutations and force them into sports to cheat over normal women.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That's not likely. The Y chromosome leads to expression of primary and secondary male characteristics including a penis, which could be underdeveloped (they usually cut it off in infancy, leaving the person to lead a life as a perceived female, or maybe an eunuch in the past?). Intersex people aka hermaphrodites are always male biologically (they could have additional X or even 2 or 3 X chromosomes). How they were perceived in culture is subjective but genetically speaking they are always male.

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– iloveturtles [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

That's not likely. The Y chromosome leads to expression of primary and secondary male characteristics including a penis, which could be underdeveloped

Based on what rudimentary reading I have done on the topic (I am the opposite of an expert), male genitalia on people with Swyer Syndrome does not develop at all. In other words, nothing needs to be cut off.

External Genitalia:

  • Individuals with Swyer syndrome typically have normal female external genitalia. They do not develop male genitalia because their bodies do not produce the male hormones necessary for male genital development.

National Organization for Rare Disorders (NORD). “Swyer Syndrome.”

  • According to NORD, individuals with Swyer syndrome “have normal female external genitalia.” The syndrome is characterized by the presence of typical female reproductive structures despite the presence of an XY chromosome pattern, typically associated with male development.

Reference Link:

  • National Organization for Rare Disorders - Swyer Syndrome https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/swyer-syndrome/
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– SmithW1984 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Has anyone confirmed it's a case of Swyer syndrome?

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– iloveturtles [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Has anyone confirmed it's a case of Swyer syndrome?

No and that's part of the issue related to the whole discussion. Lot's of conjecture, not a lot of detail. If you look at the IBA statement which you shared (thanks for that btw), it says the following:

"Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors."

They didn't say why the athletes failed eligibility, other than they used recognized testing that it wasn't testosterone examination. That statement leads me to believe it was a chromosome test and that Sywer syndrome seems like the most likely explanation. But ya, that's conjecture, not fact.

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