It means state does not make difference between men and women. Women can do anything men can do in relation to the state. That is feminism of the healthy human.
That absolutely doesn't mean that women could be dumb, fat and ugly and demand same attention and attitude from men as pretty, smart and svelte ones. And vice versa. This also does not mean social roles equality. Men can't be pregnant.
Jewish "feminism" began here, when state began to force "equality" into relations between individuals. When individuals are forced to treat equally dumb and smart, ugly and beautiful,
soulless and hearty and so on.
That "rights" thing exist only in relation between individual and state. Not between individuals.
The French revolution was the first major feminist revolution
Many states in the past treated men and women equally long before France.
Fake Jewish "feminism" started, when they hijack that feminism thing in attempt to manipulate society.
I see absolutely nothing bad in men and women having equal rights in relation to the state. And more than century practice show that equal rights of men and women does not destroy family, social relations, religion or whatever other thing. Really it eliminates possibility of missing good opportunities when some individual could not do something useful for society just because state do not allow that based on individual sex.
It means state does not make difference between men and women. Women can do anything men can do in relation to the state. That is feminism of the healthy human.
This assumes men and women aren't different though. The gender roles shift was a result of women getting into government and workforce which happened because of the feminism you think is good.
What if giving women equal rights to men (and even all men equal rights) is not a good thing and opens a pandora box? Because that's exactly what happened. Remember that first wave feminism was precisely about women being equal in state matters. Do you believe for a second it was just going to stay that way and women would be content with their stupid right to vote (which they didn't want to begin with)? Same happened with the gay rights movement and look where we are today. It's a long complex chain of causes and effects. Overtone window going wild.
All feminism in the west was promoted by jews because feminism's cosmology is based on Marxist dialectic - it describes the sexes as being in a constant struggle for power and in a master/slave relation.
This is opposite to what the patriarchal Christian view is on the matter where man and woman were both created in God's image with specific roles with man being the leader and woman being in submission. Once this is lost, all hell breaks lose. The reason it was lost is because men turned away from God, which made them weak and deluded and made women turn against men, screwing the whole hierarchy. Jews helped of course but it was ultimately our weakness and sin that allowed things to come to this.
"Feminism of the healthy human" sounds like "cancer of the healthy human". It's a poisonous ideology and it always was. People are not equal as a whole and should have different roles and places in society. Not everyone is supposed to govern, it's a duty of great responsibility. Equality is another poisonous jewish communist idea brought to fruition by the French revolution. The correct hierarchy is in fact an inverted pyramid, not the masonic one with the monarch being at the bottom carrying the weight of all people.
This assumes men and women aren't different though.
For the state - yes.
The gender roles shift was a result of women getting into government and workforce which happened because of the feminism you think is good.
No. Again, men and women have equal rights in Russia for more than a century. I do not observe any noticeable gender role shift. Being able to realise some right does not mean you have to. So men and women do their choices, what rights they want to realise, and what they don't want. Men can work as nurse, but only few do that. Women can serve in military, but only few do that. When conscious of people is not poisoned by all that jewish perversions (career, selfishness, ultimate competition with everybody including your own family, anti-merit crap, praising degeneracy and so on,), equal rights for men and women could not do any harm.
Because that's exactly what happened.
In the West - may be. Here - not at all. May be it is just because Stalin quickly eliminated all that trotskist kikes who tried to push their perverted dreams from liquidation of family to forcing single sexless type of clothes (forced as unisex today)?
Equality is another poisonous jewish communist idea brought to fruition by the French revolution
You follow their narrative exactly like they want. Equality is a tool. It is useful in one situation and harmful in another. It should be used with wisdom and thought, and can't be something universal.
Imagine you have son and daughter. If you love them equally, does that mean you obliged to dress them in same clothes and buy them same toys? Is equal love to both of your children somehow bad?
Jews do simple thing. They replace meaning and usage of "equality" with their insane meaning and usage. In Russian we have two different words - "равенство" and "уравниловка". First means "equality" like in mathematical sense, and second means "make everything the same, regardless of any circumstances". Kikes replaced first, initial meaning of "equality" with second one. And you bought it.
There can't be "equality" standalone. There always should be objects that are equal. Numbers, rights, height, wage and so on. When you read or hear "equality" without specifiying equality of what exactly meant here, then you are manipulated.
Simple as that. Just ask a question - "Equality of what exactly they are talking about?"
Same thing they did with many other concepts too. "Freedom", "Democracy", "Profit", "Diversity", "Tyranny" and so on.
Freedom from/of what they are talking about? Democracy of whom? Profit of what kind and for whom? Diversity where? Tyranny of what? Easy-peasy. Just ask questions.
And that "communism" thing. Communism is inevitable. Not in jewish, marxist sense, but more like in Star Trek. If humans will survive that clown world and defeat those bastards, sooner or later that replicators will be created. When human being will have everything he need to live, there will be no any sense in money and all that capitalism stuff. Values will shift to usefulness for others, knowledge, goodness, skills and so on. You know, that's how Johannes' Revelation ends. I hope you don't think that there will be capitalism with all that stocks, profits and money making under the ruling of Jesus and Saints :) Mindblowing, isn't it?
So why should the state treat men and women the same in they are different in reality? Shouldn't the state be based on reality?
No. Again, men and women have equal rights in Russia for more than a century. I do not observe any noticeable gender role shift. Being able to realise some right does not mean you have to. So men and women do their choices, what rights they want to realise, and what they don't want. Men can work as nurse, but only few do that. Women can serve in military, but only few do that. When conscious of people is not poisoned by all that jewish perversions (career, selfishness, ultimate competition with everybody including your own family, anti-merit crap, praising degeneracy and so on,), equal rights for men and women could not do any harm.
Russia and the Eastern bloc (I'm from one such country) are lagging because Stalinism was conservative and the iron curtain along with deep rooted Christian orthodox morality and tradition, which is very patriarchal, held western cultural revolutions at bay. The relative conservatism we witness in our countries is due to the lack of common market with the west until the 90's. But we're catching up and society is getting more liberal and women are more emancipated (especially in the big cities). Russia is going their own way and this may reverse some of those trends but my country is in the EU and there's a strong western influence, despite the general population being against it and pro-Russia (mostly due to communist nostalgia). The funny thing is both sides believe Russia is the same as the USSR and they either love them or hate them for that.
Hypothetically, you could grant equal rights but there needs to be a certain type of government, economy and society if you want the scenario you described. This is untenable in any civilized modern society I can think of mostly because of globalism and the mono-culture. Even if some government like say China can pull it off, they'd rather have women in the workforce too and not at home caring for children. That's one of the reasons such totalitarian regimes prefer feminism and communal raising of kids over the big traditional family which was characteristic for China and Russia. There are other reasons such as control and indoctrination but that's the purely economical one.
Imagine you have son and daughter. If you love them equally, does that mean you obliged to dress them in same clothes and buy them same toys? Is equal love to both of your children somehow bad?
Jews do simple thing. They replace meaning and usage of "equality" with their insane meaning and usage. In Russian we have two different words - "равенство" and "уравниловка". First means "equality" like in mathematical sense, and second means "make everything the same, regardless of any circumstances". Kikes replaced first, initial meaning of "equality" with second one. And you bought it.
I am well aware of the distinctions you bring up. We're back at the everlasting problem of what a government should be at all. I believe a government should represent the divine order and hierarchy here on Earth because that's the ultimate reality. Which means it should be a monarchy, since the Trinity is monarchical and Christ is the King of Kings. Moreover, I already wrote men and women's roles and duties should be informed by the same principles given to us by the Lord.
If one goes the atheist route, there's really nothing to base government on - it all becomes arbitrary and a matter of preference. A sandbox, which leads to the insane regimes we got after the monarchies were toppled. You think everyone should have equal rights, but others may think otherwise and in the end what you get is Darwinian rule of the most powerful, or realpolitik (which usually is the jew).
And that "communism" thing. Communism is inevitable. Not in jewish, marxist sense, but more like in Star Trek. If humans will survive that clown world and defeat those bastards, sooner or later that replicators will be created. When human being will have everything he need to live, there will be no any sense in money and all that capitalism stuff. Values will shift to usefulness for others, knowledge, goodness, skills and so on. You know, that's how Johannes' Revelation ends. I hope you don't think that there will be capitalism with all that stocks, profits and money making under the ruling of Jesus and Saints :) Mindblowing, isn't it?
It's not. This is the biggest jewish lie of all. Jews invented communism, this is their kingdom of the Antichrist and they've been trying at it since the 1600's. It seems it's about to finally work now and make them masters of the world. I think it's inevitable but whenever they succeed, their rule will be short-lived and Christ will come blazing.
Communism is an inversion of the Christian idea of Eden that the jews want to enact on Earth (utopia) so in a sense you're right - there will be no property, profits or capital in the Kingdom of God, because it won't be material or worldly in any sense :)
So why should the state treat men and women the same in they are different in reality? Shouldn't the state be based on reality?
States have their own reality. For the sate human being is source of tax money and potential threat.
The funny thing is both sides believe Russia is the same as the USSR and they either love them or hate them for that.
They are kind of right. :) Modern Russia keep a lot of USSR legacy.
women in the workforce too and not at home caring for children
Kindergardens are not just temporary storages for children. It is a place where children socialize and learn how to live together.
From the state point of view - yes, women added to workforce.
But that's not mandatory. Some choose to be housewives, but even they cooperate and organise their own kindergardens to get free time and make children play together. That's millenia long tradition, really.
You have to teach children be self-dependent and socialized. Those kids who are overcared by moms often become sociopaths.
I already wrote men and women's roles and duties should be informed by the same principles given to us by the Lord.
If you are not force abstract "equality", then things self-organises exactly in that way. In Russia women had a right to work, since ancient times. That never messed up with traditional structure of family.
Jews invented communism,
No. They stole very old idea and perverted it.
You have pure communism in your family. You don't trade duties in family, you do not charge your kids for food and do not pay your wife for washing dishes and you will feed every family member regardless of the size of their contribution to family wealth. This way things was long before any Jews appeared on the face of the Earth. Literally "From each according to ability, to each according to needs".
Jews don't care if you will love or hate communism. In either case you will be harmed. Blindly denying communism you destroy family, Blindly accepting it (especially in jewish interpretation) you destroy society.
Communism is just one of many ways to build relations between individuals. Just like with "equality" it shouldn't be stretched for everything. It shouldn't be some abstract standalone "communism". It have it's own purpose and use. For example, inside family (or tribe, in ancient times) it works. But for now it just can't be scaled to the whole society for multiple reasons.
Communism become a disaster when you try to apply it where and when it could not be applied. But it works perfectly inside family right here, right now.
Jews always exaggerate things they want to use for their own goals. But you don't have to accept their exaggregation. You could easily love communism inside your family and hate it for the whole country. But Jews want you either hate it or love it unconditionally.
That's one of their deadliest weapon. And it's a pity that most people fall to it. And there are tons of things that is under that attack.
You could take nearly anything you consider always good or always bad, and separate pure technology or method from whatever construct created around that thing. And just take an unbiased look - is it really always good or always bad? You will easily find that very few things inherently bad or inherently good. Satanism is bad. mercy is good. and few other things. All other things just sorted into whatever bin forcefully and with clear intention either to not allow technology that could be useful for you, or force you to use unsuitable technology.
It means state does not make difference between men and women. Women can do anything men can do in relation to the state. That is feminism of the healthy human.
That absolutely doesn't mean that women could be dumb, fat and ugly and demand same attention and attitude from men as pretty, smart and svelte ones. And vice versa. This also does not mean social roles equality. Men can't be pregnant.
Jewish "feminism" began here, when state began to force "equality" into relations between individuals. When individuals are forced to treat equally dumb and smart, ugly and beautiful, soulless and hearty and so on.
That "rights" thing exist only in relation between individual and state. Not between individuals.
Many states in the past treated men and women equally long before France.
Fake Jewish "feminism" started, when they hijack that feminism thing in attempt to manipulate society.
I see absolutely nothing bad in men and women having equal rights in relation to the state. And more than century practice show that equal rights of men and women does not destroy family, social relations, religion or whatever other thing. Really it eliminates possibility of missing good opportunities when some individual could not do something useful for society just because state do not allow that based on individual sex.
This assumes men and women aren't different though. The gender roles shift was a result of women getting into government and workforce which happened because of the feminism you think is good.
What if giving women equal rights to men (and even all men equal rights) is not a good thing and opens a pandora box? Because that's exactly what happened. Remember that first wave feminism was precisely about women being equal in state matters. Do you believe for a second it was just going to stay that way and women would be content with their stupid right to vote (which they didn't want to begin with)? Same happened with the gay rights movement and look where we are today. It's a long complex chain of causes and effects. Overtone window going wild.
All feminism in the west was promoted by jews because feminism's cosmology is based on Marxist dialectic - it describes the sexes as being in a constant struggle for power and in a master/slave relation.
This is opposite to what the patriarchal Christian view is on the matter where man and woman were both created in God's image with specific roles with man being the leader and woman being in submission. Once this is lost, all hell breaks lose. The reason it was lost is because men turned away from God, which made them weak and deluded and made women turn against men, screwing the whole hierarchy. Jews helped of course but it was ultimately our weakness and sin that allowed things to come to this.
"Feminism of the healthy human" sounds like "cancer of the healthy human". It's a poisonous ideology and it always was. People are not equal as a whole and should have different roles and places in society. Not everyone is supposed to govern, it's a duty of great responsibility. Equality is another poisonous jewish communist idea brought to fruition by the French revolution. The correct hierarchy is in fact an inverted pyramid, not the masonic one with the monarch being at the bottom carrying the weight of all people.
For the state - yes.
No. Again, men and women have equal rights in Russia for more than a century. I do not observe any noticeable gender role shift. Being able to realise some right does not mean you have to. So men and women do their choices, what rights they want to realise, and what they don't want. Men can work as nurse, but only few do that. Women can serve in military, but only few do that. When conscious of people is not poisoned by all that jewish perversions (career, selfishness, ultimate competition with everybody including your own family, anti-merit crap, praising degeneracy and so on,), equal rights for men and women could not do any harm.
In the West - may be. Here - not at all. May be it is just because Stalin quickly eliminated all that trotskist kikes who tried to push their perverted dreams from liquidation of family to forcing single sexless type of clothes (forced as unisex today)?
You follow their narrative exactly like they want. Equality is a tool. It is useful in one situation and harmful in another. It should be used with wisdom and thought, and can't be something universal.
Imagine you have son and daughter. If you love them equally, does that mean you obliged to dress them in same clothes and buy them same toys? Is equal love to both of your children somehow bad?
Jews do simple thing. They replace meaning and usage of "equality" with their insane meaning and usage. In Russian we have two different words - "равенство" and "уравниловка". First means "equality" like in mathematical sense, and second means "make everything the same, regardless of any circumstances". Kikes replaced first, initial meaning of "equality" with second one. And you bought it.
There can't be "equality" standalone. There always should be objects that are equal. Numbers, rights, height, wage and so on. When you read or hear "equality" without specifiying equality of what exactly meant here, then you are manipulated.
Simple as that. Just ask a question - "Equality of what exactly they are talking about?"
Same thing they did with many other concepts too. "Freedom", "Democracy", "Profit", "Diversity", "Tyranny" and so on.
Freedom from/of what they are talking about? Democracy of whom? Profit of what kind and for whom? Diversity where? Tyranny of what? Easy-peasy. Just ask questions.
And that "communism" thing. Communism is inevitable. Not in jewish, marxist sense, but more like in Star Trek. If humans will survive that clown world and defeat those bastards, sooner or later that replicators will be created. When human being will have everything he need to live, there will be no any sense in money and all that capitalism stuff. Values will shift to usefulness for others, knowledge, goodness, skills and so on. You know, that's how Johannes' Revelation ends. I hope you don't think that there will be capitalism with all that stocks, profits and money making under the ruling of Jesus and Saints :) Mindblowing, isn't it?
So why should the state treat men and women the same in they are different in reality? Shouldn't the state be based on reality?
Russia and the Eastern bloc (I'm from one such country) are lagging because Stalinism was conservative and the iron curtain along with deep rooted Christian orthodox morality and tradition, which is very patriarchal, held western cultural revolutions at bay. The relative conservatism we witness in our countries is due to the lack of common market with the west until the 90's. But we're catching up and society is getting more liberal and women are more emancipated (especially in the big cities). Russia is going their own way and this may reverse some of those trends but my country is in the EU and there's a strong western influence, despite the general population being against it and pro-Russia (mostly due to communist nostalgia). The funny thing is both sides believe Russia is the same as the USSR and they either love them or hate them for that.
Hypothetically, you could grant equal rights but there needs to be a certain type of government, economy and society if you want the scenario you described. This is untenable in any civilized modern society I can think of mostly because of globalism and the mono-culture. Even if some government like say China can pull it off, they'd rather have women in the workforce too and not at home caring for children. That's one of the reasons such totalitarian regimes prefer feminism and communal raising of kids over the big traditional family which was characteristic for China and Russia. There are other reasons such as control and indoctrination but that's the purely economical one.
I am well aware of the distinctions you bring up. We're back at the everlasting problem of what a government should be at all. I believe a government should represent the divine order and hierarchy here on Earth because that's the ultimate reality. Which means it should be a monarchy, since the Trinity is monarchical and Christ is the King of Kings. Moreover, I already wrote men and women's roles and duties should be informed by the same principles given to us by the Lord.
If one goes the atheist route, there's really nothing to base government on - it all becomes arbitrary and a matter of preference. A sandbox, which leads to the insane regimes we got after the monarchies were toppled. You think everyone should have equal rights, but others may think otherwise and in the end what you get is Darwinian rule of the most powerful, or realpolitik (which usually is the jew).
It's not. This is the biggest jewish lie of all. Jews invented communism, this is their kingdom of the Antichrist and they've been trying at it since the 1600's. It seems it's about to finally work now and make them masters of the world. I think it's inevitable but whenever they succeed, their rule will be short-lived and Christ will come blazing.
Communism is an inversion of the Christian idea of Eden that the jews want to enact on Earth (utopia) so in a sense you're right - there will be no property, profits or capital in the Kingdom of God, because it won't be material or worldly in any sense :)
States have their own reality. For the sate human being is source of tax money and potential threat.
They are kind of right. :) Modern Russia keep a lot of USSR legacy.
Kindergardens are not just temporary storages for children. It is a place where children socialize and learn how to live together.
From the state point of view - yes, women added to workforce.
But that's not mandatory. Some choose to be housewives, but even they cooperate and organise their own kindergardens to get free time and make children play together. That's millenia long tradition, really.
You have to teach children be self-dependent and socialized. Those kids who are overcared by moms often become sociopaths.
If you are not force abstract "equality", then things self-organises exactly in that way. In Russia women had a right to work, since ancient times. That never messed up with traditional structure of family.
No. They stole very old idea and perverted it.
You have pure communism in your family. You don't trade duties in family, you do not charge your kids for food and do not pay your wife for washing dishes and you will feed every family member regardless of the size of their contribution to family wealth. This way things was long before any Jews appeared on the face of the Earth. Literally "From each according to ability, to each according to needs".
Jews don't care if you will love or hate communism. In either case you will be harmed. Blindly denying communism you destroy family, Blindly accepting it (especially in jewish interpretation) you destroy society.
Communism is just one of many ways to build relations between individuals. Just like with "equality" it shouldn't be stretched for everything. It shouldn't be some abstract standalone "communism". It have it's own purpose and use. For example, inside family (or tribe, in ancient times) it works. But for now it just can't be scaled to the whole society for multiple reasons.
Communism become a disaster when you try to apply it where and when it could not be applied. But it works perfectly inside family right here, right now.
Jews always exaggerate things they want to use for their own goals. But you don't have to accept their exaggregation. You could easily love communism inside your family and hate it for the whole country. But Jews want you either hate it or love it unconditionally.
That's one of their deadliest weapon. And it's a pity that most people fall to it. And there are tons of things that is under that attack.
You could take nearly anything you consider always good or always bad, and separate pure technology or method from whatever construct created around that thing. And just take an unbiased look - is it really always good or always bad? You will easily find that very few things inherently bad or inherently good. Satanism is bad. mercy is good. and few other things. All other things just sorted into whatever bin forcefully and with clear intention either to not allow technology that could be useful for you, or force you to use unsuitable technology.