Amen! If I could upvote you multiple times I would! Just look at it like this:
You tried telling those obstinate gaslighters the truth, but instead of listening, they just continued to gaslight.
Our Lord says to not give children's food to dogs nor pearls to swine, and to dust off your sandals and move on when you are not well received.
You tried. I tried (and for now I am still not banned). We can at least be assured that we are not culpable in sins of omission in not trying to spread uncomfortable truths of the Gospel.
I would be at peace with the fact that you were hated, like Our Lord was hated, by His own, who claim to believe but reject Him in favor of His enemies.
It's a simple rule, just blame the individuals rather than the group. Abortion is a satanic ritual, but it's no more a Jewish ritual than it was a Christian ritual back when we were the ones accused of killing the babies.
There's no hatred here in carrying out simple rules. There's no favor of enemies. But there's no license to say "the Jews", meaning men, women, and children, are all enemies. Skil tried that, he actually held IIRC that Jewish minors were guilty for not leaving the faith. You are free, and u/Vlad_The_Impaler is free if he shows rulekeeping ability, to criticize any individual or corporation. But the community agreed based on Scored culture, no racism, and that's been an easy line to define and defend.
Preaching the uncomfortable truth never requires judging the innocent with the guilty, a Biblical proposition that predates the Jews. Funny how you two never respond to that uncomfortable truth. Perhaps "I tried".
I wouldn't stay at peace with myself if I were consoling myself with that Chick tract meme, it wouldn't be enough because I'd be racking myself to see if I could've spoken the uncomfortable truth more winsomely and effectively.
You charge gaslighting; point to the evidence. I've just given evidence that your characterization is off, you should be able to do the same with me.
I never said "all Jews"; You just keep reframing it that way to dismiss and gaslight me.
The Jews =/= All Jews.
You just reframe it that way to dismiss and gaslight me.
I have repeatedly said that I have nothing against the Jews on racial grounds; I have consistently maintained that the Jews are only enemies of God and the human race (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16) insomuch as they reject Christ, push anti-Christ ideas and ideologies, persecute/undermine Christians, and defend bad Jewish behavior when people like me call it out.
You just reframe it as me being "racist" to dismiss and gaslight me.
Going along with this, I don't criticize Messianic Jews, since I consider them Christian (even though they are in schism with the Catholic Church).
However, you reframe it as me including them in my criticism to dismiss and gaslight me.
Whenever I criticize the Jews for legitimate reasons (blasphemous/hateful Talmud quotes, leadership/funding/pushing anti-Christian ideologies, etc.) your response is always like "Well, it's not all Jews, so quit saying it's the Jews. It's just a coincidence that all these ideologies happen to be created by Jews, led by Jews, and are grossly overrepresented by Jews. Just name the specific Jews and stop acting like there is a collective Jewish Problem." - This is gaslighting and dismissing legitimate concern that that Jews are overrepresented in virtually all anti-Christian movements.
I don't know if you're a fed, a crypto-Jew, a Freemason, a kooky Christian Zionist, a useful idiot, or a combination of these things.
But I do know this:
You gaslight and dismiss Christian criticism of collective bad Jewish behavior.
You deny that there is any collective bad Jewish behavior whatsoever.
You defend Jewry against valid criticism.
You defend Jewry even to the point that you have shown that you're more Jewish than Christian.
And I hope anyone here will see this and know to stay away from you because you are an enemy of Christianity.
I'll grant my inference of "all" is logic-based. But what else does "The Jews" and "Jewry" and "Jewish Sacrament" mean? If it's the amorphous group of whichever Jews I include and whichever shabbat goyim and whichever I exclude, then it's meaningless, as I've said for years. It has no referent in reality.
I'll also grant you differ from u/Vlad_The_Impaler, who counts Messianics as true Jews and larpers. I apologize for implying you were fully taking his view though I see the language as still ambiguous, as I explain.
ALL PEOPLE "are only enemies of God and the human race (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16) insomuch as they reject Christ, push anti-Christ ideas and ideologies, persecute/undermine Christians, and defend bad Jewish behavior when people like me call it out." To focus on some of us sinners is the problem.
I have not objected to any evidenced criticism of individuals or corporations. I have not argued coincidence, I've agreed there is often-gross overrepresentation. When you say "collective Jewish Problem", though, you go over the line again, because you don't see how collectivist rhetoric (from satanists of all stripes) has led your mind to slip from a real entity to an imagined one. If the problem is religion, that can be sourced; if it's cultural education, that can be sourced; if it's crime, if it's DNA predilection, there are real matters to point to. But I will defend any race or religion against collectivist treatment. There can never be such a thing as a "collective Inuit Problem" nor is there for any other race or religion. When I see an individual imam speaking hatefully, I note that he and his flock are a piece of evidence; but they cannot speak for "the Arabs", and the power of the ahadith to speak for "the Arabs" also has limitations, and I respect those. For me to imagine a "collective Arab Problem" would be metaphorically murderous to innocent children.
Call me a useful idiot if you must: I serve one Master alone (I also volunteer for Scott Lively to keep accountable). Being steeped in Christian libertarianism I arrived here around J6 without realizing that my simple view, color-blindness as to collectives without ignorance of demographic trends as to individuals, would not be held by many here. If you find my views useful to some individual or group, name them. United States is an entity, Masonic Grand Lodges are each entities, other collectives have entity representation. I don't serve the United States, it is my servant; I have no connection with Masonic Grand Lodges or any secret society.
The competing view that tempts you and fully ensnares others is that some humans by birth or upbringing get an automatic restriction on having full human rights. When you say "Jewish Sacrament" you deny the Jews rights to speak for their own religion and you assert your rights to speak for them as an outsider; and that's just the problem you accuse the Jews of having, when you think they call you personally an idolator, which they don't.
If somebody could tell me an actual thing that "collective behavior" refers to, it could be criticized; but so far the only referent for that phrase is imagined groupings of individual behaviors. Trends are real and indicate predilections but cannot lead to judgment against a race. On ConPro the judgments against blacks are far more evident, and equally to be dismissed. For that, there's almost an entity: crime statistics objectively collected by public servants (police). But for "who is a Jew" when it comes to either crime or infiltration, I'm told to rely on anons' imaginations.
Now Swamp Rangers as an org is very interested in documenting and labeling swamp denizens who have crossed a boundary line of bad behavior. One problem we're currently discussing is how to keep a database balanced so as to not overwhelm it with biased content once opened to public contribution. Not easy. But we can certainly thank Conspiracies and ConPro for giving us plenty of examples of what to do and not to do.
So by your logic, even if it is FACTUAL that 83% of American Jews believe that abortion should be completely legal (more than any other religious group) and that all denominations of Judaism (orthodox, conservative, reformed, etc.) agree that abortion should be legal (even ultra orthodox believe abortion is permissible when a mother's life is in danger), I would be making some sort of fallacy to simply say, "Jews are pro-abortion" simply because there could be a small, rather irrelevant, minority of Jews that oppose abortion???
Behold, folks that are reading this: This is Gaslighting 101.
Even though there is a collective group consensus here, per u/SwampRangers (and all gaslighters) there is no such thing as "collective behavior" unless every member of the group exhibits the same behavior. If there is no unanimity in behavior, then it's just a cohencidence that disparate groups of "individuals" are behaving in similar ways, and you're an illogical moron if you use your mental faculties to start noticing patterns and grouping people together. Learn to be a Nominalist, you stupid goy! Because being a Realist by using inductive reasoning and pattern recognition means you might come to anti-schlometic conclusions!
Amen! If I could upvote you multiple times I would! Just look at it like this:
You tried telling those obstinate gaslighters the truth, but instead of listening, they just continued to gaslight.
Our Lord says to not give children's food to dogs nor pearls to swine, and to dust off your sandals and move on when you are not well received.
You tried. I tried (and for now I am still not banned). We can at least be assured that we are not culpable in sins of omission in not trying to spread uncomfortable truths of the Gospel.
I would be at peace with the fact that you were hated, like Our Lord was hated, by His own, who claim to believe but reject Him in favor of His enemies.
God bless!
It's a simple rule, just blame the individuals rather than the group. Abortion is a satanic ritual, but it's no more a Jewish ritual than it was a Christian ritual back when we were the ones accused of killing the babies.
There's no hatred here in carrying out simple rules. There's no favor of enemies. But there's no license to say "the Jews", meaning men, women, and children, are all enemies. Skil tried that, he actually held IIRC that Jewish minors were guilty for not leaving the faith. You are free, and u/Vlad_The_Impaler is free if he shows rulekeeping ability, to criticize any individual or corporation. But the community agreed based on Scored culture, no racism, and that's been an easy line to define and defend.
Preaching the uncomfortable truth never requires judging the innocent with the guilty, a Biblical proposition that predates the Jews. Funny how you two never respond to that uncomfortable truth. Perhaps "I tried".
I wouldn't stay at peace with myself if I were consoling myself with that Chick tract meme, it wouldn't be enough because I'd be racking myself to see if I could've spoken the uncomfortable truth more winsomely and effectively.
You charge gaslighting; point to the evidence. I've just given evidence that your characterization is off, you should be able to do the same with me.
I never said "all Jews"; You just keep reframing it that way to dismiss and gaslight me.
The Jews =/= All Jews.
You just reframe it that way to dismiss and gaslight me.
I have repeatedly said that I have nothing against the Jews on racial grounds; I have consistently maintained that the Jews are only enemies of God and the human race (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16) insomuch as they reject Christ, push anti-Christ ideas and ideologies, persecute/undermine Christians, and defend bad Jewish behavior when people like me call it out.
You just reframe it as me being "racist" to dismiss and gaslight me.
Going along with this, I don't criticize Messianic Jews, since I consider them Christian (even though they are in schism with the Catholic Church).
However, you reframe it as me including them in my criticism to dismiss and gaslight me.
Whenever I criticize the Jews for legitimate reasons (blasphemous/hateful Talmud quotes, leadership/funding/pushing anti-Christian ideologies, etc.) your response is always like "Well, it's not all Jews, so quit saying it's the Jews. It's just a coincidence that all these ideologies happen to be created by Jews, led by Jews, and are grossly overrepresented by Jews. Just name the specific Jews and stop acting like there is a collective Jewish Problem." - This is gaslighting and dismissing legitimate concern that that Jews are overrepresented in virtually all anti-Christian movements.
I don't know if you're a fed, a crypto-Jew, a Freemason, a kooky Christian Zionist, a useful idiot, or a combination of these things.
But I do know this:
You gaslight and dismiss Christian criticism of collective bad Jewish behavior.
You deny that there is any collective bad Jewish behavior whatsoever.
You defend Jewry against valid criticism.
You defend Jewry even to the point that you have shown that you're more Jewish than Christian.
And I hope anyone here will see this and know to stay away from you because you are an enemy of Christianity.
I'll grant my inference of "all" is logic-based. But what else does "The Jews" and "Jewry" and "Jewish Sacrament" mean? If it's the amorphous group of whichever Jews I include and whichever shabbat goyim and whichever I exclude, then it's meaningless, as I've said for years. It has no referent in reality.
I'll also grant you differ from u/Vlad_The_Impaler, who counts Messianics as true Jews and larpers. I apologize for implying you were fully taking his view though I see the language as still ambiguous, as I explain.
ALL PEOPLE "are only enemies of God and the human race (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16) insomuch as they reject Christ, push anti-Christ ideas and ideologies, persecute/undermine Christians, and defend bad Jewish behavior when people like me call it out." To focus on some of us sinners is the problem.
I have not objected to any evidenced criticism of individuals or corporations. I have not argued coincidence, I've agreed there is often-gross overrepresentation. When you say "collective Jewish Problem", though, you go over the line again, because you don't see how collectivist rhetoric (from satanists of all stripes) has led your mind to slip from a real entity to an imagined one. If the problem is religion, that can be sourced; if it's cultural education, that can be sourced; if it's crime, if it's DNA predilection, there are real matters to point to. But I will defend any race or religion against collectivist treatment. There can never be such a thing as a "collective Inuit Problem" nor is there for any other race or religion. When I see an individual imam speaking hatefully, I note that he and his flock are a piece of evidence; but they cannot speak for "the Arabs", and the power of the ahadith to speak for "the Arabs" also has limitations, and I respect those. For me to imagine a "collective Arab Problem" would be metaphorically murderous to innocent children.
Call me a useful idiot if you must: I serve one Master alone (I also volunteer for Scott Lively to keep accountable). Being steeped in Christian libertarianism I arrived here around J6 without realizing that my simple view, color-blindness as to collectives without ignorance of demographic trends as to individuals, would not be held by many here. If you find my views useful to some individual or group, name them. United States is an entity, Masonic Grand Lodges are each entities, other collectives have entity representation. I don't serve the United States, it is my servant; I have no connection with Masonic Grand Lodges or any secret society.
The competing view that tempts you and fully ensnares others is that some humans by birth or upbringing get an automatic restriction on having full human rights. When you say "Jewish Sacrament" you deny the Jews rights to speak for their own religion and you assert your rights to speak for them as an outsider; and that's just the problem you accuse the Jews of having, when you think they call you personally an idolator, which they don't.
If somebody could tell me an actual thing that "collective behavior" refers to, it could be criticized; but so far the only referent for that phrase is imagined groupings of individual behaviors. Trends are real and indicate predilections but cannot lead to judgment against a race. On ConPro the judgments against blacks are far more evident, and equally to be dismissed. For that, there's almost an entity: crime statistics objectively collected by public servants (police). But for "who is a Jew" when it comes to either crime or infiltration, I'm told to rely on anons' imaginations.
Now Swamp Rangers as an org is very interested in documenting and labeling swamp denizens who have crossed a boundary line of bad behavior. One problem we're currently discussing is how to keep a database balanced so as to not overwhelm it with biased content once opened to public contribution. Not easy. But we can certainly thank Conspiracies and ConPro for giving us plenty of examples of what to do and not to do.
So by your logic, even if it is FACTUAL that 83% of American Jews believe that abortion should be completely legal (more than any other religious group) and that all denominations of Judaism (orthodox, conservative, reformed, etc.) agree that abortion should be legal (even ultra orthodox believe abortion is permissible when a mother's life is in danger), I would be making some sort of fallacy to simply say, "Jews are pro-abortion" simply because there could be a small, rather irrelevant, minority of Jews that oppose abortion???
Behold, folks that are reading this: This is Gaslighting 101.
Even though there is a collective group consensus here, per u/SwampRangers (and all gaslighters) there is no such thing as "collective behavior" unless every member of the group exhibits the same behavior. If there is no unanimity in behavior, then it's just a cohencidence that disparate groups of "individuals" are behaving in similar ways, and you're an illogical moron if you use your mental faculties to start noticing patterns and grouping people together. Learn to be a Nominalist, you stupid goy! Because being a Realist by using inductive reasoning and pattern recognition means you might come to anti-schlometic conclusions!