“Silly theories”?

Timeline:

Which came first - Bishops(s) & Pope, Church, Deification of Jesus, Bible, original sin, hell?

Christian community

Rebuffed by the Jewish authorities, the Christians established their own communities, modeled on the Jewish synagogue. Gradually, the church worked out a governmental system based on the office of the bishop (episcopacy). https://www.britannica.com/topic/church-Christianity

“History of the Catholic Church The tradition of the Catholic Church claims it began with Jesus Christ and his teachings; the Catholic tradition considers that the Church is a continuation of the early Christian community established by the Disciples of Jesus. The Church considers its bishops to be the successors to Jesus's apostles and the Church's leader, the Bishop of Rome (also known as the Pope), to be the sole successor to St Peter[1] who ministered in Rome in the first century AD after his appointment by Jesus as head of the Church. By the end of the 2nd century, bishops began congregating in regional synods to resolve doctrinal and administrative issues.[4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church

The Church Christ Founded https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-church-christ-founded

Magisterium The teaching authority given by Christ to the Church https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/magisterium

⁉️What is the “apostolic succession ?

“apostolic succession, in Christianity, the teaching that bishops represent a direct, uninterrupted line of continuity from the first Apostles of Jesus Christ. In Roman Catholicism the doctrine of apostolic succession was further bolstered by the Petrine theory, which claimed that Jesus designated St. Peter the Apostle to be his representative on earth and the leader of the church and that this ministry was passed on to Peter’s successors as bishops of Rome. Peter received this authority, according to the theory, when Jesus referred to him as the rock of the church and said to him,

And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church…I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (Matthew 16:18–19)

Peter is thus understood to have been the first pope, and the papacy itself is believed to be a continuous line of apostolic succession.” https://www.britannica.com/topic/apostolic-succession

⁉️What were the ecumenical councils?

The ecumenical councils were official gatherings of church leaders from all over the Christian world (the word ecumenical meaning, “representing the whole of a body of churches”). https://www.gotquestions.org/ecumenical-councils.html

“Consider for example the various Ecumenical Councils that took place in Asia Minor—that ultimately helped determine modern Christianity—such as formed be proclaimed as the Nicene Creed. We also emphatically note (you are taking notes?) that it has never been claimed that God presided in person over any of these conventions.Perhaps some aspect of God’s spirit was resident—but every word spoken about those heretical controversies was done so by human mouth and heart. Every thought transpired within the nervous systems and brains of those in attendance. If votes were cast they were done so by human votive(unless cheat votes were counted). Therefore these were then “human” conventions scraped in the garb of authority. But no Angels or extraterrestrial forces appeared, debated, fought battles, or usurped decisions.Nevertheless these men who convened in 325 A.D. on the Western banks of Turkey, decided official dogma regarding the essence of Christian belief.

This dogma, as argued and decided, was articulated by their thinking abilities, language skills, politics and personalities. No omniscient spirit showed up to give a speech.” https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/07/511565.html

⁉️What is the Nicene creed?

FIRST COUNCIL OF NICAEA (325) – Affirmed the deity of Christ. https://www.gotquestions.org/ecumenical-councils.html

In 380, under Emperor Theodosius, Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire by the Edict of Thessalonica,”

⁉️What is a canon?

The term “canon” is used to describe the books that are divinely inspired and therefore belong in the Bible. https://www.gotquestions.org/canon-Bible.html

⁉️ How and when was the canon of the Bible put together?

The first “canon” was the Muratorian Canon, which was compiled in AD 170. The Council of Hippo (AD 393) and the Council of Carthage (AD 397) also affirmed the same 27 books as authoritative. https://www.gotquestions.org/canon-Bible.html

⁉️What is the Bible?

“Ironically, “The Book” is not just one book. It is a library of books, put together in one volume.” pg 21, How to read your Bible; St. Joseph edition The New American Bible. Copyright 1992, 1987, 1980,1970 by Catholic Book Publishing Corp., New York, N.Y. Printed in Korea

⁉️Who are the authors of the books of the Bible?

“THE AUTHORS OF THESE BOOKS ARE MOSTLY UNKNOWN.” pg 21, How to read your Bible; St. Joseph edition The New American Bible. Copyright 1992, 1987, 1980,1970 by Catholic Book Publishing Corp., New York, N.Y. Printed in Korea

New American Bible 2002.11.11 https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/_INDEX.HTM Each book of the Bible in the above edition has an “INT” - introduction describing what it contains, authorship, dates of authorship, etc.

It also has a word glossary, so if you search for the word “hell” you’ll find ONE(1) and an explanation on how that word came about and/or authorship, dates, etc.

Example: Matthew “The unknown author, whom we shall continue to call Matthew for the sake of convenience,”

“We don’t even know who wrote the Bible. It is not known when it was written, nor what language. At the time of Moses, Hebrew did not even exist as a language.” The Naked Bible by Mauro Biglino

What is sola scriptura?

“The phrase sola scriptura is from the Latin: sola having the idea of “alone,” “ground,” “base,” and the word scriptura meaning “writings”—referring to the Scriptures. Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian. The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true. “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16). Sola scriptura was the rallying cry of the Protestant Reformation.” https://www.gotquestions.org/sola-scriptura.html

Origin of “sola scriptura”

Westminster Confession of Faith “The Confession and Catechisms were produced in order to secure the help of the Scots against the king.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Confession_of_Faith

During the English Civil War, of which religion was a major issue, the Westminster Confession established that the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, was the written Word of God, infused with infallible truth containing all that is needed for man’s “salvation, faith, and life”. According to the Westminster Confession, the Bible in its original languages contained, “the Holy Spirit speaking in Scripture”. https://historycollection.com/18-ways-the-bible-has-changed-throughout-history/

Did the Protestant Bible Exist Before the Reformation? http://shamelesspopery.com/did-the-protestant-bible-exist-before-the-reformation/

The Curious Case of the Protestant Bible https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-curious-case-of-the-protestant-bible

“What’s particularly ironic is that the modern Evangelical Church tries hard to distance itself from the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church while the core of it’s theology comes directly out of the councils, doctrines, and creeds established by the early Roman Catholic and Latin Church.” https://www.brazenchurch.com/how-hell-invaded-church-doctrine/

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https://files.catbox.moe/ja65mf.pdf

Question.

Is the bible disinformation? You've stated that it has some metaphors that are relevant...wondering about the rest.

Answer.

The Bible is full of factually false statements when interpreted literally or figuratively. However many verses within the Bible are literal metaphors that can explain a lot about the nature of reality. Most of the Bible was created to DOMINATE mankind to allow Satanic Rituals.”

“The Book has been used. Theology spiritualizes a text that has nothing spiritual about it, and then uses it improperly as a formidable instrument of domination.” “The Naked Bible” by Mauro Biglino

Original sin:

MEANING., Original sin may be taken to mean: (I) the sin that Adam committed; (2) a consequence of this first sin, the hereditary stain with which we are born on account of our origin or descent from Adam. From the earliest times the latter sense of the word was more common, as may be seen by St. Augustine’s statement: “the deliberate sin of the First man is the cause of original sin” (De nupt. et concup., II, xxvi, 43) https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/original-sin

The belief began to emerge in the 3rd century, but only became fully formed with the writings of Augustine of Hippo (354–430 AD), who was the first author to use the phrase "original sin" (Latin: peccatum originale).[4][5] Influenced by Augustine, the councils of Carthage (411–418 AD) and Orange (529 AD) BROUGHT THEOLOGICAL SPECULATION ABOUT ORIGINAL SIN INTO THE OFFICIAL LEXICON OF THE Church.[6] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin

Author: Jesus didn’t believe in ‘original sin’ and neither should we https://religionnews.com/2017/01/13/author-jesus-didnt-believe-in-original-sin-and-neither-should-we/

“It is not all clear which passage of the Bible the apostle Paul was drawing from to arrive at the idea of the original sin” p. 58, 83. “The Naked Bible” by Mauro Biglino

TEACHING AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH (MAGISTERIUM) The magisterium may be defined as the perennial, authentic, and infallible teaching office committed to the Apostles by Christ and now possessed and exercised by their legitimate successors, the college of bishops in union with the pope. https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/teaching-authority-church-magisterium

Magisterium and original sin https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07y8rsp

Hell

The word “hell” isn’t and never was a biblical word. The actual word “hell” never came out of the mouth of Jesus Christ. Hell was translated from the Hebrew word, “shĕ’owl” (31 times) and the Greek word(s) “hadēs” (10 times), “geenna” (12 times), and “tartaroō” (1 time). https://therealgospelofchrist.com/the-origin-of-hell/

The modern English word hell is derived from Old English hel, helle (first attested around 725 AD to refer to a nether world of the dead) reaching into the Anglo-Saxon pagan period.[1]” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

The doctrine of hell is an evil doctrine that originated from pagan mythology, but the Roman Catholic church used it to put fear in to the minds of people only for control. It is documented that many Roman Catholic officials would charge fees for the forgiveness of sins and for the indulgence of certain sins.” https://therealgospelofchrist.com/the-origin-of-hell/

Abandon every hope, all ye who enter here” – a quote from one of the most influential pieces of Italian literature, La divina commedia (presently known as the Divine Comedy: Inferno), penned by famous Tuscan poet Dante Alighieri (c. 1308-1321), https://artincontext.org/famous-paintings-of-hell/

Smile, There Is No Hell (Even the Pope Says So)https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201803/smile-there-is-no-hell-even-the-pope-says-so