TLDR: What's your take? Mine is that Jews have dropped the ball and didn't plan everything and that things in the very least are not going according to plan.
In conspiracy circles, the main circulating narrative is that Jewish militias (i.e. Israel) has had everything planned from the get go, anticipated October 7th and was waiting for it to launch its genocidal/expulsion plan AND that Hamas is completely in bed with Jewish militias.
While I have personally initially ascribed to Jewish militias having planned this beforehand I now believe there is a lot more to it and that current evidence indicates we need to consider Israelis didn't plan October 7th.
Fact, Jewish militias did indeed prefer Hamas to divide the PLO/Palestinians and because they make it easier to demonize the Palestinians and keep war options open.
BUT
-If Jewish militias planned this, couldn't they postpone it until after normalization with Saudi Arabia which was almost a done deal? The timing of October 7th was inconvenient to say the least.
-If Jewish militias planned this, they could have prepared a better media narrative. You know like what they did with COVID. Their current execution is poor at best.
-Were they planning to reduce divisions in Israeli/Jewish community? It doesn't seem to work.
-What was their military plan? Whatever it was it doesn't seem to be that great. Just recently Hamas announced they have a Jewish militia colonel whom Jewish militias declared was killed and had his wife cry over him on TV. Palestinian resistance even captured more Jewish militia members recently. It just looks like the whole October 7th took Jewish militias off guard.
I give credence to the possibility that maybe Netanyahu and his inner circle may have known about October 7th, maybe other officers against him knew about it and wanted to embarrass him. Even Palestinian resistance themselves were surprised how easy it was to take over Jewish militias on October 7th. All that said I do not think Jewish militias planned the timing or most certainly how things have gone so far.
Even in the Lebanese front, things are not going so well for Jewish militias.
The Jews were completely in on it. When you look at the logistics, it seems highly improbable (impossible) that Hamas could have breeched Israeli defenses with such surprise. Furthermore, the Israeli army stood down for Hours.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/18dOAzjh3afR/
To your points, "Israel could have provided a better narrative". This narrative seems to be working. Its given Israel license to exterminate Palestinians and receive billions from the US to do so. Israeli citizens are no longer protesting in the streets at Netenyahu's power grab so I would argue the narrative is accomplishing Israeli goals.
Israel was not surprised by this. Watch the documentary I posted and notice the security / prison they have surrounded by Gaza.
Regarding the prisoners, I have 2 theories. 1. Its fake and Israel is releasing fake videos of hostages (actors) that gives Israel an excuse to genocide. 2. Israeli controlled Hama's is keeping the hostages to have an excuse for genocide. Israeli is killing 35,000 Palestinian women and children....they have to legitimize this is some way and the only way they can is through the hostage narrative. There is something very strange about the hostages, the one Israeli hostage ended up going to the oscars and the video I posted shows many Israelis THANKING their Hama's abductors.
Israel has complete control of the narrative, its not like you can go to Hamas.com and get an alternative perspective so I really think you need to question the hostage narrative. The first thing Israel did before invading was CUT internet to Gaza. They did this so they would have complete control over the narrative and hide the genocide (as best they could)
Actually internet is not cut in Gaza. They sometimes do cut it but it's not completely cut. And I know people in real life who know people in Gaza so I am not completely out of the loop.
Hostages thanking their captors is nothing special really, they treated them well and many even still had relatives who are captive.
BTW there are still demonstrations and people against Netanyahu inside Israel. You can just go Yotube and search for israel protest (search for uploaded this week)
The logistics of the attack may seem improbable but they are not impossible. You have to consider those who did the attack didn't just do the expected. If you watch the videos of the fighting you can still see they are taking out many invading Jewish militias.
Do Jews want to genocide and expel the Palestinians? Yes
Were they waiting for Hamas to attack to give them excuse to per-planned scenario like this one? Yes
Did they plan THIS attack and everything that is happening now? I am not so sure and this where we differ. I think the timing of the attack was inconvenient to Jews and they are not in complete control of the flow of events now.
3 days after October 7th Israel started cutting communications and internet
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-airstrikes-cut-off-internet-communications-in-large-areas-of-gaza-strip-/3013161
Did you watch the documentary I sent? How do you account for Hama's breaking through the wall? To give Israel the benefit of the doubt and say, "one of the most advance armies in the world that is OBSESSED with protecting its borders was just caught off guard" is beyond ludacris.
Yes there are protests, are they anywhere near what they were before October 7th? Prior to October 7th it was night after night of hundreds of thousands of people - Netenyahu was in serious trouble.
What has Israel GAINED from October 7th? How much money has the US given then? Now they have an excuse to genocide Palestinians.... Israel has BENEFITED greatly from these attacks
Thanking your captures is unusual when Isrsael is claiming that Hamas is beheading babies, raping dead women, putting babies in oven....it doesn't add it up.
Again, I know people who communicate with people there. It's not a great connection but messages do get through. There is difficulty in electricity even, relying on scarce generators with little fuel. Using Israeli sim cards or sharing of sat internet and scarce solar power etc.. but internet is not COMPLETELY cut and this is a matter of fact. Otherwise you wouldn't be seeing all the recent videos you see now. I am well aware of all the infrastructure destruction including electrical and communication.
I also realize all the towers and surveillance the IDF had around Gaza and they had plans to cover all possiblities. But you miss an important point. You think those on Hamas at all levels were so idiotic as to kill themselves with zero chance of success?
To give an example, Israel had what should have been an impossible barrier to breach on the Suez canal. Yet in 1973 it was run over by the Egyptians. The Egyptians later lost due to either treason or fatal mistakes of Sadat but I won't get into that (There are a lot of details). Same with Germany and France Maginot Line in WW2.
You put up an impossible to breach wall. Then someone will dedicate all of their ability to breach it. A very large tunnel was used by the way in the first breach from Gaza. All those cameras and infrared surveillance were useless. The bulldozers and land breach with pickup trucks was only done after they neutralized the defenses after breaching with the tunnel. We may never know all the details of the operation.
Did Netanyahu or his opposing faction make the army stand down for a while to make matters worse? Was Netanyahu or others waiting for something like this to happen to start this genocide? Most likely. Things are complicated. The official narrative is on one end and unfortunately the conspiratorial narrative is on another and both are usually not the full truth or rather simplistic versions of it.
They want you demoralized to think that there is nothing you can ever do to fight Jews or that no one can ever accomplish anything and that they have god like powers. Hence the similar line pushed in conspiracy circles that Hitler was Jewish or Jewish puppet. It was complicated but he wasn't Jewish nor a complete puppet. (Manipulated perhaps, pushed in a direction, placed for usefulness? most likely)
Thanking your captures is normal if they treated you well for a long time, both of you facing the dangers of being bombed by airplanes and knowing for a fact that all the beheading and rape stories are lies. And especially knowing that are others still held captive.
"You think those on Hamas at all levels were so idiotic as to kill themselves with zero chance of success?"
Yes. Absolutely. I have two competing theories: (1) Israel recruited 'dumb' Hamas operatives just as the FBI recruited autistic people to join terror plots (https://www.thedailybell.com/all-articles/news-analysis/fbi-now-recruiting-entrapping-autistic-children-terror-patsies-for-national-security/). Or the Hamas 'terrorists' are really IDF agents.
(2) The Palestinians are facing a slow extermination. These people are desperate. Hama's 'official plan' was to capture Iraeli hostages and TRADE them for Palestinian prisoners held by the Israeli Army.
It's difficult to asses what is actually happening as Israel owns the US Government, Israel owns the press and as such Israel owns the narrative. I'm not even convinced there are still Israeli hostages under Hamas control - again, 99% of information exiting the conflict is first passed through Israel
You are right on many regards and I of course can be very wrong in my analysis. I held very similar views earlier but recent development just led me to think otherwise and change my mindset.
BTW I recently watched the documentary you sent of John Hankey on Octover 7th inside job. I have few points that I would like to critique but maybe later if there's time and I would need to watch again. I may make a post about it.
To confirm your suspicions. Yes, the IDF did recruit MANY Hamas operatives. Not only that. It has always manipulated which Palestinian organizations gets more money and assassinates any leader which they deem counter productive to their goals. BUT here's where we differ: They do not control things completely. They nudge and push. But the Palestinians as a whole are determined against their enemy due to the occupation of their homeland. Even if they have a traitor somewhere at the top. It would be truly difficult to control things at every level.
Regarding the hostages, even according to Hamas, the number of hostages still alive seems to be very few. Israelis do control the narratives but it's not as terrible as it used to be before the internet and this is where they have failed.
You can follow people from Gaza making videos and there are many Palestinians abroad who have relatives in Gaza or people with Palestinian friends etc.. I just know for a fact that the narrative pushed and currently accepted as consensus in the alternative media is manipulated and pushed to the extreme of conspiracy instead of a rational discussion.
They push normies in one direction and us in conspiracy circle in the opposite direction.
I think this short clip here sums up Hamas' position completely: https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1796349613865373973
Domestication through frequency of repetition... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yshJn7lgVsY
The purpose of domestication through frequency of repetition aka ones consent to TAKE the suggested information. Perceivable inspiration cannot be taken, no matter how hard one tries to hold onto it.
a) Consenting to suggested THE-ism implies BA'AL (taking possession of). It's gentiles dropping on their knees when taking the suggestions by a jew.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Baal#etymonline_v_158
b) BALL implies being (life) within all (inception towards death).
Sleight of hand: "Ball Point Pen" aka penning point of death for being within all. Look into László József Bíró (born László József Schweiger) who snatched the patent for the first ball point pen.
The footage is there of course but will they release them?
And if Jews were so superior and "secure" how come they are still losing men 8 months later in spite of all the American shabbos goys and mercenaries from all over the world fighting for them with endless supply of munition and logistics?
There is more than ample proof of Jewish militias being liquidated. I am not going to supply you with the endless videos saved on my hard drive of them being hunted down or their funerals or them being cut to pieces or are in hospitals with lost limbs. I suggest you actually talk to people who are involved.
Now you are talking like a Jew. Follow this guy to get a glimpse: https://twitter.com/jonelmer
It never happened.