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Then explain to me why it doesn't involve actually putting samples from healthy animals through the same exact process it says should be done to samples from sick animals?
If It did involve that, Koch would have discovered asymptomatic carriers decades before Typhoid Mary.
Here we go again, confirming that this entire topic is not relevant to your claim that viruses aren't real.
First off, I'll say the fact that it's called "Koch's postulates" and not "Koch's experiment" ought to be a very big clue to you that this isn't what you think it is.
19th century scientists did not choose their labels arbitrarily, and "postulate" means something very specific that totally undermines your attempt to use it as any kind of proof for anything.
Postulate means ASSUMPTION! And things are not proven with assumptions.
That being said here is the answer to your question....
You first start by devising an experiment that proves contagiousness, which is absolutely trivial and easy to do. You just start by recording the fact that the disease can be transmitted from person to person.
Then you continue demonstrating contagiousness over and over again, as you record the disease moving farther and farther away from patient zero.
Along with proper controls this will demonstrate that whatever causes the disease is self replicating, based on the simple fact that dilution would effect the concentrations of any poison or contaminate as it moves more and more steps away from patient zero.
However, if you can demonstrate that patient 1,000 is just as contagious as patient-zero, then you are at the same time establishing that whatever causes the disease replicates inside the body and isn't subject to being diluted as it's transmitted from person to person.
Okay, so now you've established that there is something self replicating and contagious that makes you sick.
Now you can devise other experiments that involve testing and culturing samples from the sick people to see if you can find any differences between their samples and that of a healthy person.
Before you know it you're discovering viruses and performing experiments to determine in what environments they can live and replicate.
This is how science works. You don't start off with 4 statements and base everything around merely assuming they are true.
You don't get to step #50 where you discover the virus can't live on it's own, and then assume that invalidates all the other 49 steps.
You start with the absolute most simple and basic things you can prove for a fact, which are NOT POSTULATES.... and you continue building new ideas that you can prove on top of that foundation.
Which by the way, is exactly how germ theory of disease was developed.
Are you aware that all such trivial and easy experiments during the Spanish flu and later during the polio epidemic failed? They had symptomatic patients in close contact and sneezing multiple times in healthy subjects' faces (who weren't exposed to the disease prior to that) and couldn't get a single person sick. They tried injecting them with mucous and even that failed. Those experiments proved said diseases are not contagious, meaning the contagious pathogen hypothesis goes down the drain. So what now?
From 1933 to present day, virologists have been unable to present any experimental study proving that influenza spreads through normal contact between people. All attempts were met with failure.
are you aware that such trivial and easy experiments with COVID-19, the flu, the common cold, gential herpes, and HIV will not fail?
bro I'm honestly done debating primitive 1800s borderline pseudoscience with you.
Do yourself a favor and try to learn some science from the last hundred years.
Now reevaluate the truth of that statement without the arbitrary and undefined modifier "normal contact".
are you saying the disease cannot spread to anybody under any circumstances? No, once again you're cherry picking arbitrary criteria.
"Nobody has proven the cold is contagious.......Over a radio broadcast."
"nobody has ever proven HIV is transmissible..... from a wink and a nod."
"No one has ever proven a virus can infect people.... After being removed from all living cells and killed on a petrie dish."
Give me a break, you clown.
I just told you they failed with the flu - what makes you think they will not fail with those others viruses? I personally can attest to not getting the flu or covid while being in close contact with people who were sick without having prior infection myself. That's anecdotal and I'm not serving it as proof.
Dude, they had people sneezing in the face of the subject and injecting mucous in their veins. How much more definite can one get?
Stop strawmaning - we're talking direct contact between infected and healthy individuals, where droplets, supposedly carrying billions of virions coming into contact with the mucous membrane of the subject failed to produce the disease.
Not culturing, not in vitro experiments but good ol' fashioned sneezing, then injecting mucous and then inoculating mucous on the eyes of the subjects. Nothing happened. Not a single fucking case. Explain that.
Sauce: https://www.scribd.com/document/465804177/EXPERIMENTS-TO-DETERMINE-MODE-OF-SPREAD-OF-INFLUENZA-ExposeBillGates-COVID1984-PLANdemic
Present the studies with the experiments proving viral contagion or stfu.
Okay so now we're just going to pretend that neither of us have ever first hand witnessed a single flu case spread through an entire office, school, or home? We're going to pretend like neither of us have been personally infected in such a way?
bro I'm so done with these novels. You're clearly not worth my time, and you're clearly moving the goal posts after basing your ENTIRE ARGUMENT on "Koch's Assumptions".
Are you by chance retarded or just a common liar? The study told you they couldn't produce the disease by exposing healthy subjects to symptomatic patients , meaning they couldn't prove contagion, to which you replied:
And I logically pointed out this observation tells you nothing of how and why the disease occurs - you're assuming contagiousness but you haven't proven it hence it's begging the thing in question. Are you playing dumb with me running in circles? How are you supposed to do science when you can't do logic?
Lying like a dirty gypsy once more. But why? No one else is reading our little argument. Look back at who brought up Koch in the first place. Then look at what I replied. I've already quoted it a couple comments ago:
Then I did provide a source of my citation about the Spanish flu, you disingenuous little bitch. And you refused to comment on it but instead went on deflecting about Koch's fake and gay assumptions (sure I grant you that) as if my argument hinges on them.
I'm done here.