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Are you aware that all such trivial and easy experiments during the Spanish flu and later during the polio epidemic failed? They had symptomatic patients in close contact and sneezing multiple times in healthy subjects' faces (who weren't exposed to the disease prior to that) and couldn't get a single person sick. They tried injecting them with mucous and even that failed. Those experiments proved said diseases are not contagious, meaning the contagious pathogen hypothesis goes down the drain. So what now?
From 1933 to present day, virologists have been unable to present any experimental study proving that influenza spreads through normal contact between people. All attempts were met with failure.
are you aware that such trivial and easy experiments with COVID-19, the flu, the common cold, gential herpes, and HIV will not fail?
bro I'm honestly done debating primitive 1800s borderline pseudoscience with you.
Do yourself a favor and try to learn some science from the last hundred years.
Now reevaluate the truth of that statement without the arbitrary and undefined modifier "normal contact".
are you saying the disease cannot spread to anybody under any circumstances? No, once again you're cherry picking arbitrary criteria.
"Nobody has proven the cold is contagious.......Over a radio broadcast."
"nobody has ever proven HIV is transmissible..... from a wink and a nod."
"No one has ever proven a virus can infect people.... After being removed from all living cells and killed on a petrie dish."
Give me a break, you clown.
I just told you they failed with the flu - what makes you think they will not fail with those others viruses? I personally can attest to not getting the flu or covid while being in close contact with people who were sick without having prior infection myself. That's anecdotal and I'm not serving it as proof.
Dude, they had people sneezing in the face of the subject and injecting mucous in their veins. How much more definite can one get?
Stop strawmaning - we're talking direct contact between infected and healthy individuals, where droplets, supposedly carrying billions of virions coming into contact with the mucous membrane of the subject failed to produce the disease.
Not culturing, not in vitro experiments but good ol' fashioned sneezing, then injecting mucous and then inoculating mucous on the eyes of the subjects. Nothing happened. Not a single fucking case. Explain that.
Sauce: https://www.scribd.com/document/465804177/EXPERIMENTS-TO-DETERMINE-MODE-OF-SPREAD-OF-INFLUENZA-ExposeBillGates-COVID1984-PLANdemic
Present the studies with the experiments proving viral contagion or stfu.
Okay so now we're just going to pretend that neither of us have ever first hand witnessed a single flu case spread through an entire office, school, or home? We're going to pretend like neither of us have been personally infected in such a way?
bro I'm so done with these novels. You're clearly not worth my time, and you're clearly moving the goal posts after basing your ENTIRE ARGUMENT on "Koch's Assumptions".
You're begging the question. How does witnessing lots of people in close proximity getting sick inform you it's a microscopic contagious pathogen causing the disease and not other environmental factors? Isn't that why experiments to determine mode of transmission are conducted? And yet they couldn't successfully transmit the disease even when using over-the-top methods. Meanwhile we're supposed to believe these viruses are so contagious that we need masks and social distancing to not get infected.
Cope. I'm not surprised at all. You didn't even engage with the proof I presented. You're obviously not good faith and don't care about the truth of the matter but have some sort of an agenda. All you do is ad homs and pearl clutching - much empty talk about "muh science" and no actual scientific evidence presented. At least take the L like a big boy.
Are you by chance retarded or just a common liar? The study told you they couldn't produce the disease by exposing healthy subjects to symptomatic patients , meaning they couldn't prove contagion, to which you replied:
And I logically pointed out this observation tells you nothing of how and why the disease occurs - you're assuming contagiousness but you haven't proven it hence it's begging the thing in question. Are you playing dumb with me running in circles? How are you supposed to do science when you can't do logic?
Lying like a dirty gypsy once more. But why? No one else is reading our little argument. Look back at who brought up Koch in the first place. Then look at what I replied. I've already quoted it a couple comments ago:
Then I did provide a source of my citation about the Spanish flu, you disingenuous little bitch. And you refused to comment on it but instead went on deflecting about Koch's fake and gay assumptions (sure I grant you that) as if my argument hinges on them.
I'm done here.