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The MV Dali had rudder control when it took out the bridge (youtu.be)
posted 1 year ago by DavidColeIntrepid 1 year ago by DavidColeIntrepid +18 / -0
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– Primate98 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Very good video. Always interesting to hear someone competent talk about their area of expertise and experience.

To back up another step before we even get to the issue of steering, we should ask why any steering was necessary, even if the power went out? That is, the ship was running straight ahead directly between the pylons with the rudder presumably amidships when the power went out. I further suspect the rudder is basically "locked" into place when the hydraulic pumps are not actually running.

Given their incredible momentum, turning, slowing, and stopping huge ships like that are big tasks. I wouldn't be surprised if the stopping distance for such a ship would be half a mile or more and several minutes before you'd ever have to think about it drifting around in the current, which--given that it was in a river--would just be further towards the sea.

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

There are arguments about drift from current, wind, and the propeller fighting against current. They dropped anchor some distance away which as you said because of the momentum would in no way stop the vessel but it would make drifting worse. Besides losing power twice which shouldn't happen it's confusing why the ships bow can be seen move left, then right, then left again before hitting the pylon. Seems like it was intentional.

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– Primate98 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

This story is floating around out there, from a site most discount as fictional, and even the article itself admits the rumor has not been confirmed:

White Hats Suggest Dali Unmanned at Time of Collision (RRN 3/27/2024)

The remote piloting of a "ghost ship" to a fairly small target is probably not that easy, so that would explain the steering corrections. The power loss would then just be someone flicking the switch on and off to create the cover story. Then they had to erase part of the black box to destroy record of all the things the crew would never do and lack of actions they would certainly take.

And supposedly a harbor pilot was in control, so shouldn't we have heard all about him? You know, the standard rumors about how he was secretly gay and suicidal an a religious zealot? Nope, no discussion of him.

Maybe that's because there was no pilot on board, or anyone else.

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– SicilianOmega 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Given that the ship was run by stupid pajeets, it wouldn't surprise me if the main generator had broken down a year ago and they kept sailing with just the emergency generator until it finally gave out.

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The shipmaster was actually Ukrainian and there are inspections periodically.

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– SicilianOmega 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I thought it was the pilot who was Ukrainian. And, if the inspection was done in India, I have no faith in it.

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– SuicideTruthbomber 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

There is a chance they will blame Russia for this if doing so could be advantageous.

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– cyberrigger 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

At slow speed rudder control doesn't do much.

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

What do you consider "slow"?

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– cyberrigger 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_thruster

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

So how do you explain the bow moving left, right, then left again before striking the pylon. That would suggest the shipmaster struck the bridge intentionally, doesn't it?

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's obvious on the full video that the bow is moving west turns east then back west before striking the pylon

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– BGallemore 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Link the video please

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– DavidColeIntrepid [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I'm not your secretary, handshake.

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– BGallemore 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I don't know why it says I'm new. If you look at my profile I've been here since the beginning. I just created this and it was finally posted today. Let me know what you think about my handshake.

https://bra.in/6qn6m9

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