Calling out your attempts to distract and use non-sequitur is nothing I need to apologize for.
Who said it was? I said you ought recognize and admit your mistake (derailing the conversation and continuing to abandon its topic) to yourself, so you can hopefully avoid it in the future!
No one has asked for any apology in any case.
You can voice your concern about my understandings without making baseless assumptions.
Sadly they were not baseless :( If only they were baseless, we could have skipped this utter waste of breath. If you act like a bot - or otherwise in a manner that prevents the conversation from being productive or of any value - i'm going to tell you. Call it a distraction if you wish, but without addressing and remedying those behaviors the conversation is fruitless and thus over. It was, and is, only out of respect for the discussion that i made those comments and always will when appropriate.
What do you mean, specifially, by "bot"?
What you think, more or less. "AI"/programmatically generated; whole or in part. Yes, there are visual avatars with human-like speech which can also perform their actions in a "discord" or other video based forum in real time.
You also seem to be overlooking the very real possibility that although a human can be employed to circumvent a bot detection (such as a captcha, or in this context a "video call/conference" to "prove" they are human) - that does not and cannot prove that they were not a bot in the past or will not be a bot in the future once that bot detection is circumvented.
You're acknowledging that you were wishing to derail the conversation
Of course not! You merely misinterpreted the cause and meaning of my "push" - which i have explicitly clarified (including purpose/reasoning for making such comments) repeatedly.
it was my fault for falling for it?
Yes. It was your fault for choosing (and continuing to choose) to abandon the discussion and the topic thereof. You did not need to do that, and if you let your reactionary emotion rule your actions you help do your enemies work for them. I am not your enemy, and did not in any way seek to derail the conversation with my comment (precisely the opposite!) - but had i been (as MANY are) you would have done all my work for me.
If you want the conversation to be productive and stay on topic, then you must work to ensure that. Suppressing/ignoring such "baseless accusation" and other distraction is just one thing you must do to achieve that goal. Controlling your emotion [being disciplined] is another.
Who said it was? I said you ought recognize and admit your mistake
In this case, calling out your attempts to distract and use non-sequitur is no mistake.
that does not and cannot prove that they were not a bot in the past or will not be a bot in the future once that bot detection is circumvented.
In what way does an AI/avatar become human later? Please don't answer in a theoretical sense, but in an actual sense. How, physically, does this happen?
Suppressing/ignoring such "baseless accusation" and other distraction
You again acknowledge that what you wrote was a distraction
In this case, calling out your attempts to distract and use non-sequitur is no mistake.
Who said it was? It sounds like you, once again, need to re-read what i have written. I already clarified explicitly what your mistake was in the previous comment... Speaking of things bots cannot do - reading comprehension is high on the list.
In what way does an AI/avatar become human later?
They are swapped out. The human is invoked (sometimes) to circumvent the bot detection, then the bot goes back to work. Or a bot account which has been discovered is replaced with a real human in an attempt to hide the fact that they were a bot. There are many examples.
You again acknowledge that what you wrote was a distraction
You again fail to grasp context :( Bot detection +1.
It was interpreted by you (incorrectly) as "baseless accusation" and "distraction" designed to derail the conversation. As a result YOU proceeded to derail the conversation. If it had been intended to derail the conversation, you would have done all my work for me.
You said I have to admit to my mistake. I have made no mistake in my interaction here.
They are swapped out.
On a better medium we can confirm the discussion we had on this thread (and others) to ensure we are both speaking honestly, and affirming the points we made previously. We can communicate more directly and respond to points in real time and avoid the confusion of whether or not I'm a bot in that moment.
Correct. And i also explicitly told you what that mistake was. Go back and read it, if you are capable.
I have made no mistake in my interaction here
If your intention was to derail the conversation, abandon its topic, and continue doing that ad infinitum - then i suppose that might be true. If you truly wanted to keep the conversation on topic and avoid distraction/tangent (as you claimed) then you have made nothing but mistakes since overreacting to a minor comment a dozen or so posts ago.
Pride is a fool's fortress and shame's cloak. Cast it off if you can.
and avoid the confusion of whether or not I'm a bot in that moment.
That's just my point. We can't avoid that confusion. Real time bots are already capable of generating such real time content.
But as i said, it's all moot - because if you cannot remedy/avoid the bot like tendencies that are preventing the conversation from being worthwhile - then it doesn't matter what forum/medium this conversation takes place in or if your are a bot or not.
This format is vastly better for such discussions anyway. It gives you unlimited time to compose your thoughts, and to respond to specific content which you have a concrete record of (as opposed to a real time discussion in which, typically, you have neither).
Who said it was? I said you ought recognize and admit your mistake (derailing the conversation and continuing to abandon its topic) to yourself, so you can hopefully avoid it in the future!
No one has asked for any apology in any case.
Sadly they were not baseless :( If only they were baseless, we could have skipped this utter waste of breath. If you act like a bot - or otherwise in a manner that prevents the conversation from being productive or of any value - i'm going to tell you. Call it a distraction if you wish, but without addressing and remedying those behaviors the conversation is fruitless and thus over. It was, and is, only out of respect for the discussion that i made those comments and always will when appropriate.
What you think, more or less. "AI"/programmatically generated; whole or in part. Yes, there are visual avatars with human-like speech which can also perform their actions in a "discord" or other video based forum in real time.
You also seem to be overlooking the very real possibility that although a human can be employed to circumvent a bot detection (such as a captcha, or in this context a "video call/conference" to "prove" they are human) - that does not and cannot prove that they were not a bot in the past or will not be a bot in the future once that bot detection is circumvented.
Of course not! You merely misinterpreted the cause and meaning of my "push" - which i have explicitly clarified (including purpose/reasoning for making such comments) repeatedly.
Yes. It was your fault for choosing (and continuing to choose) to abandon the discussion and the topic thereof. You did not need to do that, and if you let your reactionary emotion rule your actions you help do your enemies work for them. I am not your enemy, and did not in any way seek to derail the conversation with my comment (precisely the opposite!) - but had i been (as MANY are) you would have done all my work for me.
If you want the conversation to be productive and stay on topic, then you must work to ensure that. Suppressing/ignoring such "baseless accusation" and other distraction is just one thing you must do to achieve that goal. Controlling your emotion [being disciplined] is another.
In this case, calling out your attempts to distract and use non-sequitur is no mistake.
In what way does an AI/avatar become human later? Please don't answer in a theoretical sense, but in an actual sense. How, physically, does this happen?
You again acknowledge that what you wrote was a distraction
Who said it was? It sounds like you, once again, need to re-read what i have written. I already clarified explicitly what your mistake was in the previous comment... Speaking of things bots cannot do - reading comprehension is high on the list.
They are swapped out. The human is invoked (sometimes) to circumvent the bot detection, then the bot goes back to work. Or a bot account which has been discovered is replaced with a real human in an attempt to hide the fact that they were a bot. There are many examples.
You again fail to grasp context :( Bot detection +1.
It was interpreted by you (incorrectly) as "baseless accusation" and "distraction" designed to derail the conversation. As a result YOU proceeded to derail the conversation. If it had been intended to derail the conversation, you would have done all my work for me.
You said I have to admit to my mistake. I have made no mistake in my interaction here.
On a better medium we can confirm the discussion we had on this thread (and others) to ensure we are both speaking honestly, and affirming the points we made previously. We can communicate more directly and respond to points in real time and avoid the confusion of whether or not I'm a bot in that moment.
Correct. And i also explicitly told you what that mistake was. Go back and read it, if you are capable.
If your intention was to derail the conversation, abandon its topic, and continue doing that ad infinitum - then i suppose that might be true. If you truly wanted to keep the conversation on topic and avoid distraction/tangent (as you claimed) then you have made nothing but mistakes since overreacting to a minor comment a dozen or so posts ago.
Pride is a fool's fortress and shame's cloak. Cast it off if you can.
That's just my point. We can't avoid that confusion. Real time bots are already capable of generating such real time content.
But as i said, it's all moot - because if you cannot remedy/avoid the bot like tendencies that are preventing the conversation from being worthwhile - then it doesn't matter what forum/medium this conversation takes place in or if your are a bot or not.
This format is vastly better for such discussions anyway. It gives you unlimited time to compose your thoughts, and to respond to specific content which you have a concrete record of (as opposed to a real time discussion in which, typically, you have neither).