Part of growing up is recognizing and taking responsibility for your actions. Don't shirk it - it's for your benefit!
Even if it were true that my criticisms of your bot-like actions/behavior were a distraction from the conversation (which they were not, or at least certainly not intended as) it was YOUR choice to derail and entirely focus the subsequent conversation on those minor comments. If it is important to you, as it is to me, to keep the conversation on topic - then you have to learn how to suppress and/or ignore such distractions. "They started it" is not a valid defense on the playground, or in a conversation for the exact same reasons!
with someone who continues to make baseless accusations
If only they were baseless! We could have skipped this whole waste of time. It is because they are not baseless that this utter waste of breath is transpiring.
It shows you do not respect the conversation, so why would I?
As i've said - i explicitly made such comments because of my respect for the conversation. But even if that were not the case, and i was intentionally trying to derail and disrespect the conversation - that is your excuse for so devotedly helping me to do that? Again, such "they started it" "logic" is embarrassingly childish and best avoided.
You would respect the conversation and seek to keep it on topic merely because you choose to, and for no other reason. Don't ever let the bad habits and actions of others compel you to be worse and stoop to their level! When you let that happen, you become lesser; you become like your enemy.
But you are not a bot.
Perhaps. Or perhaps i am not a bot now, but will be in the near future. As the spooks say : trust, but verify.
That isn't under question
It must always be, sadly. When an online entity exhibits bot like behavior, concluding that they are or may be a bot is completely prudent and warranted.
However, you are deciding to question whether I am
Based on you actions, yes! If you wish to avoid such accusation in the future, then you must work to avoid their behavior and to engage in behavior which they cannot emulate.
so I would be more interested in directly addressing that before I would take what you say seriously.
I think you are being far too sensitive about all this. I receive so many routine baseless accusations online that perhaps i have become a bit callous regarding it, but i am doubtful that this is your first experience with such things if you've spent any significant time on online forums.
As for "taking me seriously", that is completely up to you. I do not seek to manipulate (aka convince) you in any way; quite the opposite in fact. I do my utmost to be both earnest and honest, but that will, can, and should only become evident to you through repeated interaction and demonstration. Even then, such things can change at the drop of a hat and those who deserved to be taken seriously in the past can suddenly stop being worthy (and vice versa, but that is quite a bit more rare).
Part of growing up is recognizing and taking responsibility for your actions
Correct. You are not doing it. It is important for you to not include non-sequitur. I ignored them at first, and a few times I even offered to help settle it so you wouldn't have to bring it up again, but your insistence to continue shows that it's what you primarily want to focus on.
It's your responsibility as well to keep the conversation on topic, but you intend to distract instead.
Don't ever let the bad habits and actions of others
I'm helping you break your bad habits and actions. It starts with you.
Your actions demonstrate you don't respect me or the conversation topic, by insisting on using non-sequitur and distraction.
You are completely missing the point. Even if that were true (which it isn't) i take no responsibility for YOUR actions/response. "They started it" is not a valid defense, period.
You have chosen to derail the conversation and abandon the topic of it because of some minor comments which you believe (incorrectly) were only designed to do exactly that. So your response to someone attempting to derail a conversation is to help them derail that conversation :( If you wanted the conversation to stay on topic, you have both failed to ensure that and played directly into their hands to actively help them abandon it.
It's your responsibility as well to keep the conversation on topic,
I agree, and one that i take seriously.
but you intend to distract instead
I intend to have a productive conversation, if that is possible. If it isn't, then i intend to have no conversation at all. Not telling you that your habits/actions within the conversation are that of bots and allowing you to continue willfully misunderstanding and repeating the same mistakes over and over again is simply "how to keep an idiot busy". If you can't do better, you can't continue to make progress in the conversation. It is as simple as that, regardless of wether you are a bot or not.
I'm helping you break your bad habits and actions
You can lead a horse to water, and you can suggest anything you like. The onus for derailing the conversation and abandoning the topic is entirely on you, and continues to be now. I cannot and will not take any responsibility for your actions. It is extremely childish to assume that i should.
It is good to help others and to provide useful advice, but you can only hope to have control (and even then, only through years of disciplined training) of your own actions.
Even if i did intend to derail the conversation with a few minor comments - YOU still did the derailing through your reaction. You should recognize and take responsibility for that, or it will keep happening in the future. I was not seeking/trying to manipulate you, but you are making it very easy for those who do/will by childishly trying to blame them for your own actions/reactions.
It starts with you.
Practice what you preach! People will often fall short of your expectations of them, including yourself - but you can only have agency over yourself.
Your actions demonstrate you don't respect me or the conversation topic
I can't (and won't) tell you how to feel, but it is you abandoning the conversation and topic thereof, and has been for MANY comments now. Own it, or you will do it again the future.
I agree! But you are continuing to derail, so it's best we directly address it so you no longer have to make these baseless assumptions. It seems you are more concerned with assumptions rather than getting concrete information, which again demonstrates a lack of respect.
I intend to have a productive conversation, if that is possible.
You have not done well through your continuous showing of disrespect.
I cannot and will not take any responsibility for your actions.
I am requesting you take responsibility for your own actions. Your actions have been to continuously bring up questions on whether or not I'm a bot, in an attempt to derail the main topic with non-sequitur. If you insist that this is to be questioned, then it's best we move to a medium where it wouldn't be. You don't seem to want that though.'
Even if i did intend to derail the conversation with a few minor comments - YOU still did the derailing
Then grow up, recognize/admit your mistake, and try to do better next time! Doubling down on "you started it, so all of my subsequent actions are your fault", as you are currently doing, is embarrassing and childish :(
Of course, the above council assumes you are capable of (and willing to do) that, which i hope for your sake - that you are.
You have not done well through your continuous showing of disrespect.
As i've already told you, it is not disrespectful to make you aware of your bot like actions which both mire/prevent useful conversation and cause me to conclude that you are a bot and/or otherwise incapable of doing any better.
It is, of course, your choice to be offended however - though no offense was intended (quite the opposite!).
I am requesting you take responsibility for your own actions
Don't waste your breath. I already have. This is about you, and your continued derailing of the conversation as well as continued abandonment of its topic. If you truly cared about the topic of conversation, then you would abandon this distraction and get back to it!
Your actions have been to continuously bring up questions on whether or not I'm a bot
If you want that to stop, you must stop acting like a bot. If you can't, then there is nothing more to discuss.
then it's best we move to a medium where it wouldn't be.
You don't seem to understand. There is no superior medium. Having some visible avatar (real or generated) as well as audio (real or generated) proves nothing, and even if you were not a bot during that brief interaction would not establish that you weren't a bot in previous or future interactions. All of this is moot however, because if you can't avoid bot like tendencies that are preventing the discussion from being useful - it doesn't matter if you are a bot or not - you are simply not capable of meaningful rational discourse.
"I pushed you, but it was YOUR fault you fell"
Now you are getting it. The discipline required not to fall is what you lack, and apparently are choosing to proudly continue to lack. I urge you to reconsider. It is within your power not "to fall", not to give in to reactionary emotion and end up serving those who wish to derail the conversation (of which you claim, but notably do not act, that you are one).
Part of growing up is recognizing and taking responsibility for your actions. Don't shirk it - it's for your benefit!
Even if it were true that my criticisms of your bot-like actions/behavior were a distraction from the conversation (which they were not, or at least certainly not intended as) it was YOUR choice to derail and entirely focus the subsequent conversation on those minor comments. If it is important to you, as it is to me, to keep the conversation on topic - then you have to learn how to suppress and/or ignore such distractions. "They started it" is not a valid defense on the playground, or in a conversation for the exact same reasons!
If only they were baseless! We could have skipped this whole waste of time. It is because they are not baseless that this utter waste of breath is transpiring.
As i've said - i explicitly made such comments because of my respect for the conversation. But even if that were not the case, and i was intentionally trying to derail and disrespect the conversation - that is your excuse for so devotedly helping me to do that? Again, such "they started it" "logic" is embarrassingly childish and best avoided.
You would respect the conversation and seek to keep it on topic merely because you choose to, and for no other reason. Don't ever let the bad habits and actions of others compel you to be worse and stoop to their level! When you let that happen, you become lesser; you become like your enemy.
Perhaps. Or perhaps i am not a bot now, but will be in the near future. As the spooks say : trust, but verify.
It must always be, sadly. When an online entity exhibits bot like behavior, concluding that they are or may be a bot is completely prudent and warranted.
Based on you actions, yes! If you wish to avoid such accusation in the future, then you must work to avoid their behavior and to engage in behavior which they cannot emulate.
I think you are being far too sensitive about all this. I receive so many routine baseless accusations online that perhaps i have become a bit callous regarding it, but i am doubtful that this is your first experience with such things if you've spent any significant time on online forums.
As for "taking me seriously", that is completely up to you. I do not seek to manipulate (aka convince) you in any way; quite the opposite in fact. I do my utmost to be both earnest and honest, but that will, can, and should only become evident to you through repeated interaction and demonstration. Even then, such things can change at the drop of a hat and those who deserved to be taken seriously in the past can suddenly stop being worthy (and vice versa, but that is quite a bit more rare).
Correct. You are not doing it. It is important for you to not include non-sequitur. I ignored them at first, and a few times I even offered to help settle it so you wouldn't have to bring it up again, but your insistence to continue shows that it's what you primarily want to focus on.
It's your responsibility as well to keep the conversation on topic, but you intend to distract instead.
I'm helping you break your bad habits and actions. It starts with you.
Your actions demonstrate you don't respect me or the conversation topic, by insisting on using non-sequitur and distraction.
You are completely missing the point. Even if that were true (which it isn't) i take no responsibility for YOUR actions/response. "They started it" is not a valid defense, period.
You have chosen to derail the conversation and abandon the topic of it because of some minor comments which you believe (incorrectly) were only designed to do exactly that. So your response to someone attempting to derail a conversation is to help them derail that conversation :( If you wanted the conversation to stay on topic, you have both failed to ensure that and played directly into their hands to actively help them abandon it.
I agree, and one that i take seriously.
I intend to have a productive conversation, if that is possible. If it isn't, then i intend to have no conversation at all. Not telling you that your habits/actions within the conversation are that of bots and allowing you to continue willfully misunderstanding and repeating the same mistakes over and over again is simply "how to keep an idiot busy". If you can't do better, you can't continue to make progress in the conversation. It is as simple as that, regardless of wether you are a bot or not.
You can lead a horse to water, and you can suggest anything you like. The onus for derailing the conversation and abandoning the topic is entirely on you, and continues to be now. I cannot and will not take any responsibility for your actions. It is extremely childish to assume that i should.
It is good to help others and to provide useful advice, but you can only hope to have control (and even then, only through years of disciplined training) of your own actions.
Even if i did intend to derail the conversation with a few minor comments - YOU still did the derailing through your reaction. You should recognize and take responsibility for that, or it will keep happening in the future. I was not seeking/trying to manipulate you, but you are making it very easy for those who do/will by childishly trying to blame them for your own actions/reactions.
Practice what you preach! People will often fall short of your expectations of them, including yourself - but you can only have agency over yourself.
I can't (and won't) tell you how to feel, but it is you abandoning the conversation and topic thereof, and has been for MANY comments now. Own it, or you will do it again the future.
I agree! But you are continuing to derail, so it's best we directly address it so you no longer have to make these baseless assumptions. It seems you are more concerned with assumptions rather than getting concrete information, which again demonstrates a lack of respect.
You have not done well through your continuous showing of disrespect.
I am requesting you take responsibility for your own actions. Your actions have been to continuously bring up questions on whether or not I'm a bot, in an attempt to derail the main topic with non-sequitur. If you insist that this is to be questioned, then it's best we move to a medium where it wouldn't be. You don't seem to want that though.'
"I pushed you, but it was YOUR fault you fell"
Then grow up, recognize/admit your mistake, and try to do better next time! Doubling down on "you started it, so all of my subsequent actions are your fault", as you are currently doing, is embarrassing and childish :(
Of course, the above council assumes you are capable of (and willing to do) that, which i hope for your sake - that you are.
As i've already told you, it is not disrespectful to make you aware of your bot like actions which both mire/prevent useful conversation and cause me to conclude that you are a bot and/or otherwise incapable of doing any better.
It is, of course, your choice to be offended however - though no offense was intended (quite the opposite!).
Don't waste your breath. I already have. This is about you, and your continued derailing of the conversation as well as continued abandonment of its topic. If you truly cared about the topic of conversation, then you would abandon this distraction and get back to it!
If you want that to stop, you must stop acting like a bot. If you can't, then there is nothing more to discuss.
You don't seem to understand. There is no superior medium. Having some visible avatar (real or generated) as well as audio (real or generated) proves nothing, and even if you were not a bot during that brief interaction would not establish that you weren't a bot in previous or future interactions. All of this is moot however, because if you can't avoid bot like tendencies that are preventing the discussion from being useful - it doesn't matter if you are a bot or not - you are simply not capable of meaningful rational discourse.
Now you are getting it. The discipline required not to fall is what you lack, and apparently are choosing to proudly continue to lack. I urge you to reconsider. It is within your power not "to fall", not to give in to reactionary emotion and end up serving those who wish to derail the conversation (of which you claim, but notably do not act, that you are one).