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posted 2 years ago by BuckeyePatr1ot 2 years ago by BuckeyePatr1ot +23 / -5
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– Modeler42 -2 points 2 years ago +1 / -3

That’s an interesting take. Where is the push force coming from?

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– jack445566778899 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Weight, an intrinsic and inexorable property of all matter. The direction for that push force is down when the weight is greater than that of the displaced media, and up when it is lesser.

It's really the normal/standard take, and has been for around 2000 years.

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– Modeler42 -2 points 2 years ago +1 / -3

Well, a pushing force comes from behind, does it not?

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– jack445566778899 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Not necessarily. Why do you think pushing always comes from behind?

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– Modeler42 -2 points 2 years ago +1 / -3

Right but what is causing that weight to push townward?

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– jack445566778899 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The fact that the weight is greater than the weight it displaces. Otherwise it doesn't!

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– Modeler43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

but since you want to give up

Read again my previous comment. I am not giving up. I have been searching. I have not found one.

The direction is arbitrary

Read again my previous comment. It is not arbitrary. It is what defines the difference.

The object feels/experiences/is subjected to the same force (push) no matter which direction that force comes from.

This is demonstrably false.

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– Modeler43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hello! Just checking to see if you got my last comment?

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– Modeler43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You can find physicists from that era who share this view, but it may be easier if you go back further.

Again, I have gone back further. I have not found one that says that push is the only force. I assure you I have given a fair shake and looked at many different classical and modern physicists and have not found any that support this.

There is no better source for my perspective than me

We're not just talking about your perspective though. You claim that other scientists share your perspective, I'm unable to find one.

The answer is, you are pushing your hand, which in turn pushes on the superglue, which pushes on the eraser.

But I'm not pushing. I'm pulling. I'm bringing it towards me.

Have you never used the word "pull" in your life?

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– Modeler43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hello! just circling back here. Would love to show you a demonstrative example of why push and pull are fundamentally different, such as when you look at the effects that they have on an object.

When an object is pushed, it will experience a sensation of compression, where the molecules of the object are pushed closer together.

When an object is pulled, it will experience a sensation of tension, where the molecules would be pulled further apart.

Does this make sense?

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