Keep at it, and you will find plenty! Or don't. Up to you!
It is what defines the difference.
We're kind of just "talking" in circles here. You call push towards you pull - but that is an arbitrary distinction based on your vantage/perspective and not a real distinction on the force itself (yes, it is its direction - which is a component of that force; but the force itself, push, is the same regardless of the direction it is applied in).
This is demonstrably false.
Provide an example. To a given object, push applied towards yourself (which you call "pull") is (or at least can be, and for our hypothetical - explicitly is) identical to push applied away from yourself (yes, of course - save for the direction - which even you must agree cannot and does not fundamentally change the nature of the force itself).
You can find physicists from that era who share this view, but it may be easier if you go back further.
Again, I have gone back further. I have not found one that says that push is the only force. I assure you I have given a fair shake and looked at many different classical and modern physicists and have not found any that support this.
There is no better source for my perspective than me
We're not just talking about your perspective though. You claim that other scientists share your perspective, I'm unable to find one.
The answer is, you are pushing your hand, which in turn pushes on the superglue, which pushes on the eraser.
But I'm not pushing. I'm pulling. I'm bringing it towards me.
I have not found one that says that push is the only force
Perhaps not in such a gross way. It is more proper to say that forces can only push, and that pull has no mechanism in classical deterministic physics.
I have not found one that says that push is the only force
No one said it was, please read the above for clarification.
In any case, as hearing it from a historical (or modern) physicist will do no good in terms of helping you understand anyway, why don't you discuss my perspective with me instead? I assure you that if you keep earnestly researching, you will find this classical view espoused by many physicists - but since you want to quit looking; i say go ahead. It's just another distraction for you :(
We're not just talking about your perspective though
Of course we are, don't be silly. We are only talking about my perspective, and yours. We're the only ones here...
Yes, it is true that many others (physicists included) share my view. We are still only discussing our perspectives.
I'm bringing it towards me.
Right! A completely arbitrary distinction! In reality there is no difference, save for direction, when the object is pushed in one direction, or pushed in another. The pencil/bottle/severed finger does not know or care what direction that is in relative to us. In physics it experiences the same forces when you move it away from yourself (pushing) or when you move it towards yourself (pulling).
You (and many others) call it pull only out of colloquial habit. If you earnestly go back, read, and answer the questions i have provided you, you will begin to understand. Otherwise you simply don't want to understand, in which case no one can help you :(
Hello! just circling back here. Would love to show you a demonstrative example of why push and pull are fundamentally different, such as when you look at the effects that they have on an object.
When an object is pushed, it will experience a sensation of compression, where the molecules of the object are pushed closer together.
When an object is pulled, it will experience a sensation of tension, where the molecules would be pulled further apart.
The fact that the weight is greater than the weight it displaces. Otherwise it doesn't!
Read again my previous comment. I am not giving up. I have been searching. I have not found one.
Read again my previous comment. It is not arbitrary. It is what defines the difference.
This is demonstrably false.
Keep at it, and you will find plenty! Or don't. Up to you!
We're kind of just "talking" in circles here. You call push towards you pull - but that is an arbitrary distinction based on your vantage/perspective and not a real distinction on the force itself (yes, it is its direction - which is a component of that force; but the force itself, push, is the same regardless of the direction it is applied in).
Provide an example. To a given object, push applied towards yourself (which you call "pull") is (or at least can be, and for our hypothetical - explicitly is) identical to push applied away from yourself (yes, of course - save for the direction - which even you must agree cannot and does not fundamentally change the nature of the force itself).
Hello! Just checking to see if you got my last comment?
Again, I have gone back further. I have not found one that says that push is the only force. I assure you I have given a fair shake and looked at many different classical and modern physicists and have not found any that support this.
We're not just talking about your perspective though. You claim that other scientists share your perspective, I'm unable to find one.
But I'm not pushing. I'm pulling. I'm bringing it towards me.
Have you never used the word "pull" in your life?
Perhaps not in such a gross way. It is more proper to say that forces can only push, and that pull has no mechanism in classical deterministic physics.
No one said it was, please read the above for clarification.
In any case, as hearing it from a historical (or modern) physicist will do no good in terms of helping you understand anyway, why don't you discuss my perspective with me instead? I assure you that if you keep earnestly researching, you will find this classical view espoused by many physicists - but since you want to quit looking; i say go ahead. It's just another distraction for you :(
Of course we are, don't be silly. We are only talking about my perspective, and yours. We're the only ones here...
Yes, it is true that many others (physicists included) share my view. We are still only discussing our perspectives.
Right! A completely arbitrary distinction! In reality there is no difference, save for direction, when the object is pushed in one direction, or pushed in another. The pencil/bottle/severed finger does not know or care what direction that is in relative to us. In physics it experiences the same forces when you move it away from yourself (pushing) or when you move it towards yourself (pulling).
You (and many others) call it pull only out of colloquial habit. If you earnestly go back, read, and answer the questions i have provided you, you will begin to understand. Otherwise you simply don't want to understand, in which case no one can help you :(
Hello! just circling back here. Would love to show you a demonstrative example of why push and pull are fundamentally different, such as when you look at the effects that they have on an object.
When an object is pushed, it will experience a sensation of compression, where the molecules of the object are pushed closer together.
When an object is pulled, it will experience a sensation of tension, where the molecules would be pulled further apart.
Does this make sense?