Did Catholicism Create Islam?
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Who knows how to lay the four corners? Two are on a high place. One builds. One destroys under illusion of building.
Lineating and delineating..........the laying or leying of lines brings Time and Distance and dimension into being. Being of matter, they are 'ruled' by its laws under Lucifer, so to speak. Entering into dualism....two extreme 'points' and all in between.
The dichotomy it presents ......known variously as Zeno's Paradox or more modern take, Hegel's Dialectic.....it is used to control opposing forces.
Hence, always going 'to and fro'........back and forth in cycles that give the appearance of balance when it is not. The method of 'influence' and now influenza :)
These people are sick.
The middle way of the cross..........the fulcrum between 'two thieves'....the horizontal 'to and fro' of materialism......is the verticle androgynous christ of the chrism.
And we'll all go 'back and forth' until we 'settle' this. :)
You seem to be mixing alchemical principles with doctrine. For example, Satan uses Hegelian stratagems to create the change he wants to see. A lot of people make the mistake that the true path is somewhere in the middle when in actuality, biblical truth has nothing to do with either path presented by Lucifer. If you’re searching for a middle ground, you’re just walking around in the cage Satan has fashioned.
It’s part of the strategy to create two opposing factions, have them conflict, and then present what you really wanted as a compromise after the dust has settled. In reality, you’re just falling for the deception by accepting the compromise. It’s why we are instructed to have nothing to do with any of it. Instead, the only way to see what you really should be doing is to study the genuine word of God and follow its instructions. The more familiar you are with the genuine article, the better you get at spotting a forgery. That way, regardless of wether or not the devil presents the light or dark path, you will be able to recognize it and avoid it.
The notion of a balance between good and evil isn’t a biblical concept. Instead, we are told that God has nothing to do with the darkness and to have anything to do with it results in death because you are choosing to separate yourself from God. Any “light” that tries to have fellowship with darkness is a false light and only seeks to present a convenient lie to the unaware.
They aren't Hegel's stratagems exactly......Hegelian, yes. ..Hegel made observations, about the dialectic. Dividers use it to accomplish their goals. It wasn't invented, or 'created' except as a by-product of dualist nature coming into being.
This was known as Zeno's Paradox in western history.
The "Middle" of the cross, between it's arms, the two thieves at the opposites, who actually represent the dichotomy of nature. The 'middle arm' represents the quiet still fulcrum between the extremes. The base from which they deviate.
It represents the chrism and one who accepts as the christ.
The study of dualism in nature, in Asia produced Taoism aka 'The Middle Way'.
Darkness, being not a thing, but absent of a thing, it makes little sense to say God has 'nothing to do with it'. It's saying he has nothing to do with nothing.
You seem to misunderstand what is meant by 'middle' here. The fulcrum has equal parts to either side...........but isn't either.
The hub of a wheel is comparable in other traditions.
The problem is dualism and stressing the opposite sides as mere opposites, not paired concepts and this perpetuates the dichotomy that some know how to take to their advantage.
In Egypt, the heart is laid on a scale upon death to gauge both it's 'weight' and 'balance'. Reasons.
Everything in it's extreme becomes it's opposite. Explain.
You are incorporating a lot of non-scriptural teachings and trying to apply them to what is stated in the Bible. This is the wrong direction. Instead, you need to start with the Bible and work outward as it is the foundation of Truth. You need to let the Bible define itself and not apply foreign definitions to biblical symbols. Doing so is considered a form of idolatry.
When I say God has nothing to do with it, I am saying that God has nothing to do with death. This is stated clearly by scripture. He is the God of the living. He is a God of creation and light. He is perfect and there is no darkness or sin in Him. As a created being, you are made with the capacity to stay in creation or leave it because you have free will. To choose the teachings of man and the world, to choose sin, is to pursue a path that cannot lead to God. Instead, you are only lead to a path that results in death as you are willingly separating yourself from the very thing that sustains existence.
Again, you’re mixing pagan thought with Christian thought. The concepts of the middle way and the notion that Christ is a state of being are deceptions meant to fool people into thinking they have found truth when in reality they are still trapped in the lie.
Both paths presented in those systems, left and right/ dark and light, or even some mysterious middle path that’s in harmony with nature (nature worship is idolatry), are lies that lead to the same place. Scripture is clear on this. At the end, there aren’t three paths, or many different paths to the same place, there are only two. One path leads to Christ which is life, every other path leads to eternal death and separation from God. It’s up to you which side you are on.
When you talk of Christ as a state of being or “Christ Consciousness” you are buying into a variation of the same lie that the serpent told Adam and Eve in the garden, that you can become like God. This is just an extension of works based salvation which is completely antithetical to what the plan of salvation actually is. Fallen man is incapable of saving himself so God had to personally don flesh and be the sacrifice in our stead. If you accept Christ and obey God, His sacrifice is applied to you and you are effectively pardoned. You are then to go and walk the Christian path in life. There is no other way out that results in you living as any sin functionally results in the death penalty.
You call on concepts from Taoism and Egypt when their religions and teachings have nothing to do with the teachings of the Bible. Instead, ancient man got those teachings from fallen angels who were trying to confuse the story by taking elements of the truth and then perverting reality. The Hegelian dialectic of using opposites to create an outcome (synthesis) is a stratagem of Satan. When you say dividers use it to their benefit, it’s more correct to look at them as people who are spiritually manipulated to do the works of Lucifer in the world.
Even your symbolism isn’t biblical. The Bible defines its symbols and nowhere does it describe the cross as a fulcrum between two opposites. Such an explanation is manmade and therefore invalid according to scripture. Instead, the cross is meant to point back to the sanctuary which itself pointed to Christ. The symbolism you reference doesn’t point to Christ and instead points to some suggested secret truth for the enlightened, completely removing Christ as the savior, thereby shifting focus to the individual saving themself. The more you study the Bible, the more plain it is that other religions explanations for biblical concepts are just the Devils fan fiction as he tries to tell a version of the story that either inverts or combines the character of God with his character.
I think the problem here is that you are looking at Christianity as being on the same level as any other religion in that they all have some aspect of the truth or any one of them can lead to the ultimate truth. In reality, you have everything else, then you have Christianity.
I highly recommend you watch the entirety of the Total Onslaught series as it addresses every single thing you’re talking about and clearly shows where the errors are, which is why I like to link to it so much.
You stated: You are incorporating a lot of non-scriptural teachings and trying to apply them to what is stated in the Bible.
This is the wrong direction. Instead, you need to start with the Bible and work outward as it is the foundation of Truth. You need to let the Bible define itself and not apply foreign definitions to biblical symbols. Doing so is considered a form of idolatry.
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I've done both. You need to do both. This word 'scripture' is tossed around loosely and always was, especially within the neo roman churches. You need to deep dive christian history in establishing 'scriptural teachings'.
The cause of idolatry is most often anthropromorphism. I'm careful to avoid such pitfalls as idolatry as it is said to be 'the only thing that angers God', with that itself being an anthropromorphic statement.
You say: When I say God has nothing to do with it, I am saying that God has nothing to do with death. This is stated clearly by scripture. He is the God of the living. He is a God of creation and light. He is perfect and there is no darkness or sin in Him. As a created being, you are made with the capacity to stay in creation or leave it because you have free will. To choose the teachings of man and the world, to choose sin, is to pursue a path that cannot lead to God. Instead, you are only lead to a path that results in death as you are willingly separating yourself from the very thing that sustains existence.
The religion of Rome, however, has everything to do with death. The life within the symbol of the cross has been turned into an instrument of torture/death, Christ is a man who died and that 'fact' is to be 'confessed' or you'll be eternally tortured and so on.
This will thing is never free and doing what thou wilt isn't it, and neither is doing something based from fear. Fear and desire are the mind killers and this is what the Heaven/Hell dichotomy of the Roman religion rests upon. The ancient truths it hides are another thing altogether.
The god of creation and light is the Demiurge, akin to Lucifer, the god of the material world. Gnostic Christians schooled Roman Christians on the difference, were not understood, were killed, and the esoteric line went underground.
It waits to be discovered by those who know how and where to look.
Roman Christianity is nothing BUT the mixing of pagan traditions with their own.
The word 'pagan' meant simply commoner or peasant as it was meant to be a derogatory statement for those deplorables who weren't ready to accept the new head placed on the old body.
The problem here is that you attempt to measure something without the proper training and the issue is the very same in reverse of what you accuse.
You need to get outside your box. It isn't even yours.
Thesis: Anti-thesis : Synthesis
It's a 'law of nature'.
But both law and nature are 'below God'.
(I didn't downdoot you btw)