That’s not how biblical naming works. In the Bible, your name changes based on circumstance. Before the fall, he was Lucifer. After the fall, he is Satan. Ba’al is just one of the names pagans gave him. You can still tell it’s the same person by the symbolism, doctrine, and moral character associated with the different names. The same thing applies to us as we are given new names after the second coming of Christ to reflect our status as redeemed beings.
Lucifer can be considered a devil or the devil after the fall. Not satan. Satan is a title. And, if you think of the story of Job it's clear Satan still had God's ear. The fallen did not, Demons are just fallen angels. The first heretics.
Of course he still had Gods ear. God isn’t a tyrant and gives everyone free will. He lets the Devil play things out within reason to allow the rest of creation an opportunity to see for themselves the consequences of sin. That’s why it’s playing out like this and God didn’t just erase Lucifer from existence right away. That would’ve left room for doubt and would only have given sin an opportunity to arise in others.
Did you never go to Bible study, or this topic was never covered? It's part of the answer to why in discussing Noah's flood. The wrath of God was so fierce the symbol of the rainbow was used to say he's never be that harsh again. Because he was a harsh, and never forget, " I am a jealous God".
Jude 1:6 - And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to
Genesis 6:1-22 - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, (Read More...)
There is a theory that the Bible is referring to two different God's because of the differences. I'm not going to go into that. If you're interested in that, it's not quite part of the theory with the 4 different letters representing who wrote the Bible.
I will give you my opinion. When I read the Bible all the way through like a book for the second time just before I had kids, I was not able to accept or agree with the actions taken by God. As a soon to be parent they were not actions I could imagine myself taking.
It’s all the same God, not multiple. It becomes more clear when you understand the wording for certain instances from Hebrew thought. From their point of view, if God permits something to happen, it’s valid to write as if He made it happen. In the case of the flood, you have to remember that God waited for thousands of years before declaring the world would be destroyed by the flood. By that time, wickedness had become so prevalent, it would have threatened the plan of salvation so He declared the world would be destroyed. Even then, He commanded Noah to preach the warning that the flood would come for 120 years before it finally came. In that time, anyone who was willing was given a chance at mercy and they would be allowed into the ark so long as they would change their ways. Everybody who was destroyed in the flood had an opportunity to hear both sides and make their choice as to what they would do. God makes it a rule for Himself that His creation is given free will and the capacity to exercise that will. It’s why so many bad things happen to good people. God isn’t making those bad things happen, he’s just permitting people (including the fallen angels) to make what choices they will with the time given them to make those choices. If you want, I can post some information regarding biblical typology and material that further explains the mindset of God. Once you can see things through that lens and not the lens of a human mindset, it all makes a lot more sense.
That’s not how biblical naming works. In the Bible, your name changes based on circumstance. Before the fall, he was Lucifer. After the fall, he is Satan. Ba’al is just one of the names pagans gave him. You can still tell it’s the same person by the symbolism, doctrine, and moral character associated with the different names. The same thing applies to us as we are given new names after the second coming of Christ to reflect our status as redeemed beings.
The change of the name is telling you something.
Lucifer can be considered a devil or the devil after the fall. Not satan. Satan is a title. And, if you think of the story of Job it's clear Satan still had God's ear. The fallen did not, Demons are just fallen angels. The first heretics.
Of course he still had Gods ear. God isn’t a tyrant and gives everyone free will. He lets the Devil play things out within reason to allow the rest of creation an opportunity to see for themselves the consequences of sin. That’s why it’s playing out like this and God didn’t just erase Lucifer from existence right away. That would’ve left room for doubt and would only have given sin an opportunity to arise in others.
Did you never go to Bible study, or this topic was never covered? It's part of the answer to why in discussing Noah's flood. The wrath of God was so fierce the symbol of the rainbow was used to say he's never be that harsh again. Because he was a harsh, and never forget, " I am a jealous God".
Jude 1:6 - And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to
Genesis 6:1-22 - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, (Read More...)
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Fallen-Angels/
There is a theory that the Bible is referring to two different God's because of the differences. I'm not going to go into that. If you're interested in that, it's not quite part of the theory with the 4 different letters representing who wrote the Bible.
I will give you my opinion. When I read the Bible all the way through like a book for the second time just before I had kids, I was not able to accept or agree with the actions taken by God. As a soon to be parent they were not actions I could imagine myself taking.
It’s all the same God, not multiple. It becomes more clear when you understand the wording for certain instances from Hebrew thought. From their point of view, if God permits something to happen, it’s valid to write as if He made it happen. In the case of the flood, you have to remember that God waited for thousands of years before declaring the world would be destroyed by the flood. By that time, wickedness had become so prevalent, it would have threatened the plan of salvation so He declared the world would be destroyed. Even then, He commanded Noah to preach the warning that the flood would come for 120 years before it finally came. In that time, anyone who was willing was given a chance at mercy and they would be allowed into the ark so long as they would change their ways. Everybody who was destroyed in the flood had an opportunity to hear both sides and make their choice as to what they would do. God makes it a rule for Himself that His creation is given free will and the capacity to exercise that will. It’s why so many bad things happen to good people. God isn’t making those bad things happen, he’s just permitting people (including the fallen angels) to make what choices they will with the time given them to make those choices. If you want, I can post some information regarding biblical typology and material that further explains the mindset of God. Once you can see things through that lens and not the lens of a human mindset, it all makes a lot more sense.