How exactly it proves it? Tesla turbine is perfectly up to the time, there is nothing exceptional and miraclous in it. Turbines as a class of devices are not a modern thing at all, you will find them since ancient times.
Tesla turbine looks (and sounds, meanwhile, I have one, made from HDD plates :) ) cool, but it is overall ineffective compared to conventional turbine design with blades. Unfortunately, it have to be many times bigger than conventional turbine to show similar efficiency, since you have to force a laminar flow of gas/liquid in them to be effective, but making giant high precision polished plates is in no way cheaper and easier than making turbine blades today.
Funny, that Tesla was working on a pump for gas and liquid using centrifugal forces, and no, he was not inventor of that pump type, it was invented by Sargent in 1850 IIRC, but suddenly he noticed that it could work backwards - when gas is delivered into the pump under pressure. Pumps of such design even in mass production for a long time, at least in USSR/Russa ("ЦДН" pump models). They mostly used to pump liquids that could not sustain turbulence. Also, vacuum pumps on that principle is used in labs.
Also interesting, that Tesla had prototype of conventional steam turbine, with blades and all that stuff. Pretty effective, meanwhile, because its design allowed gas to expand also on the blades, adding some thrust.
But again, there is nothing exceptional in Tesla turbine at all.
Effectiviness have nothing to do with seals. It has everything to do with principles of working. Blade turbines work by transferring the energy of moving gas/liquid particles to blades via collisions of particles with blades. Tesla turbine have completely different principle - it works because moving particles of gas/liquid transfer its energy via friction with disk in surface layer. And the problem of Tesla turbine is that energy transfer is maximal when gas/liquid flow slowly, without turbulence. As turbulence appear, transfer of kinetic energy become chaotic, particles do not drag disks in one direction, so gas/liquid unable to effectively transfer its kinetic energy to the disks. You have to keep gas/liquid flow slow enough to prevent turbulence. So, if you need something powerful, you need a lot of large disks blowed by slow flows from multiple laminar jets. With blade turbine you just blow on the blades with all power you have and that's fine as soon as blades could sustain pressure and rotation speed. With Tesla turbine, if gas flow come turbulent, efficiency drops significantly, and you can't increase turbine output power just adding more gas/liquid flow, you have to add more disks to turbine.
Also, disks have to be polished as mirror and be very straight, to avoid turbulence creation on the roughness. This make manufacturing Tesla turbine disks a complex task.
So, you have to build a much larger Tesla turbine to have the same efficiency as a bladed one. It is obviously ineffective.
Meh, technically it would be faraday? if I understand right. Which is funny you can find his book from 1844 on google books and the opening chapter is talking about his experiments with a electric eel.
He may have been the first to generate ac in a rotating magnetic field, but he had no clue what was going on lol.
Tesla is credited with being the first person to effectively harness it. Without him, we would never have made it this far this quick. Even today people are still trying to figure out how he was doing things back then, like transmitting electricity wirelessly.
I remember talking to a dumbass coworker here in nova scotia who didnt believe me that you could buy wireless chargers for your phone. Like jesus christ man worse than the hillbillys back home in the hills of appalachia.
I think there has been a huge attempt in the last few years to write him out of history as well.
The man was more likely to be communicating with a ET, than being a ET himself. He would often talk to people who werent there, and he even claimed that some of his inventions would come to him in a fervor. But that doesnt mean anything really.
The man chose to forgo material possessions for the betterment of humankind. Wasnt his fault that he got royally dicked over, its fucking hilarious in a way really. Gives the rights to westinghouse, who was proably convinced by jp morgan to swindle tesla, only to get swindled by jp morgan himself.
Dumb fuck. I also hope jp morgan is burning in hell somewhere.
Well, no. The Tesla turbine design had a number of flaws.
It only operated well at high speeds. This eventually causes the discs to warp.
For any reasonable power level production, the turbine has to use discs of 2 to 3 feet diameter. However, when those spin at Tesla speeds the material shatters from powerful forces.
Tesla operating speed is not compatible with things like generators. To power those one has to have 50K to 3K RPM gear step downs. The gears wear out super fast.
These are lab curiousities but not actually practical.
Sounds like we just hit a barrier with materials. If we found a better, new, light indestructible material that does not warp or distort at any speed or G force them I'd assume your statement could be voided. Sometimes when a problem arises like that it doesn't mean it's useless, it means innovation. The truth is that how we have continued to grow technologically throughout the years, so in summary it's my belief that there are countless already existing filed patents that can actually be retooled to be allot more efficient today due to the gigantic leap we've made in materials tech.
Necessity is the catalyst for invention, or something like that, you know, the thing.
How exactly it proves it? Tesla turbine is perfectly up to the time, there is nothing exceptional and miraclous in it. Turbines as a class of devices are not a modern thing at all, you will find them since ancient times.
Tesla turbine looks (and sounds, meanwhile, I have one, made from HDD plates :) ) cool, but it is overall ineffective compared to conventional turbine design with blades. Unfortunately, it have to be many times bigger than conventional turbine to show similar efficiency, since you have to force a laminar flow of gas/liquid in them to be effective, but making giant high precision polished plates is in no way cheaper and easier than making turbine blades today.
Funny, that Tesla was working on a pump for gas and liquid using centrifugal forces, and no, he was not inventor of that pump type, it was invented by Sargent in 1850 IIRC, but suddenly he noticed that it could work backwards - when gas is delivered into the pump under pressure. Pumps of such design even in mass production for a long time, at least in USSR/Russa ("ЦДН" pump models). They mostly used to pump liquids that could not sustain turbulence. Also, vacuum pumps on that principle is used in labs.
Also interesting, that Tesla had prototype of conventional steam turbine, with blades and all that stuff. Pretty effective, meanwhile, because its design allowed gas to expand also on the blades, adding some thrust.
But again, there is nothing exceptional in Tesla turbine at all.
Did you put seals on the ends?
Effectiviness have nothing to do with seals. It has everything to do with principles of working. Blade turbines work by transferring the energy of moving gas/liquid particles to blades via collisions of particles with blades. Tesla turbine have completely different principle - it works because moving particles of gas/liquid transfer its energy via friction with disk in surface layer. And the problem of Tesla turbine is that energy transfer is maximal when gas/liquid flow slowly, without turbulence. As turbulence appear, transfer of kinetic energy become chaotic, particles do not drag disks in one direction, so gas/liquid unable to effectively transfer its kinetic energy to the disks. You have to keep gas/liquid flow slow enough to prevent turbulence. So, if you need something powerful, you need a lot of large disks blowed by slow flows from multiple laminar jets. With blade turbine you just blow on the blades with all power you have and that's fine as soon as blades could sustain pressure and rotation speed. With Tesla turbine, if gas flow come turbulent, efficiency drops significantly, and you can't increase turbine output power just adding more gas/liquid flow, you have to add more disks to turbine.
Also, disks have to be polished as mirror and be very straight, to avoid turbulence creation on the roughness. This make manufacturing Tesla turbine disks a complex task.
So, you have to build a much larger Tesla turbine to have the same efficiency as a bladed one. It is obviously ineffective.
Yes. Suddenly.
Meh, technically it would be faraday? if I understand right. Which is funny you can find his book from 1844 on google books and the opening chapter is talking about his experiments with a electric eel.
He may have been the first to generate ac in a rotating magnetic field, but he had no clue what was going on lol.
Tesla is credited with being the first person to effectively harness it. Without him, we would never have made it this far this quick. Even today people are still trying to figure out how he was doing things back then, like transmitting electricity wirelessly.
I remember talking to a dumbass coworker here in nova scotia who didnt believe me that you could buy wireless chargers for your phone. Like jesus christ man worse than the hillbillys back home in the hills of appalachia.
I think there has been a huge attempt in the last few years to write him out of history as well.
The man was more likely to be communicating with a ET, than being a ET himself. He would often talk to people who werent there, and he even claimed that some of his inventions would come to him in a fervor. But that doesnt mean anything really.
Lmao, I think ill pass on having a hole punched in my skull for a headache, or being burned at the stake for heretical beliefs.
Thanks though.
The man chose to forgo material possessions for the betterment of humankind. Wasnt his fault that he got royally dicked over, its fucking hilarious in a way really. Gives the rights to westinghouse, who was proably convinced by jp morgan to swindle tesla, only to get swindled by jp morgan himself.
Dumb fuck. I also hope jp morgan is burning in hell somewhere.
Wardenclyffe was the first internet.
Well, no. The Tesla turbine design had a number of flaws.
These are lab curiousities but not actually practical.
Sounds like we just hit a barrier with materials. If we found a better, new, light indestructible material that does not warp or distort at any speed or G force them I'd assume your statement could be voided. Sometimes when a problem arises like that it doesn't mean it's useless, it means innovation. The truth is that how we have continued to grow technologically throughout the years, so in summary it's my belief that there are countless already existing filed patents that can actually be retooled to be allot more efficient today due to the gigantic leap we've made in materials tech.
Necessity is the catalyst for invention, or something like that, you know, the thing.
Carry On!!!
PS: You guys are awesome
I'm 100% convinced rockefeller and morgan told tesla to go fuck himself.
Personally I think Tesla was fake news and all his inventions were in widespread use during a previous civilization which has been hidden from us