As to the last thing you mentioned, free will, I think that's a crucial aspect of what's going on but not in the sense everyone seems to think. Rather than being something to do with some "cosmic" or "karmic" sense of it, I think it's much more concrete. That is, I think a deal was put in place a long time ago and has been playing out since then, and here is the clearest description I've found of it:
Because of his arrogance, Allah banished Iblis from heaven and condemned him to hell. Iblis accepted his fate, but asked that he might be spared until Judgement Day so that he could tempt humans from the path of righteousness and lead them to the same fate that would eventually befall him. Allah granted this, but did not give Iblis power over humans. Instead, if they were to be led from the righteous path, it would have to be because of their own temptations and transgressions.
So do I think it's about supernatural beings from some divine realm? Not at all. I think very real events took place on very real Earth in the very real past, but the evidence of them has been mythologized, fractured, rewritten, misinterpreted, smeared together, hidden, destroyed, etc, etc., but the tiny pieces remain that we have to try to put together.
So we can start to form explanations for things we find. Did Pike, out of nowhere, think serving a non-existent Lucifer was a great idea and that fooling people into it over decades was the best way to go? No, he was just a player in a much bigger game to be played according to certain rules that would be enforced at the end.
And how about demons, or aliens, or breakaway Elites with advanced technology: If they're so powerful, why don't they just put the zap on all of us sheep? Either they're not powerful or it's not allowed, and they're afraid of forfeiting or being punished at the end. Which, of course, entail the existence of an enforcer.
But the big picture, as I see it, is that the best way for your opponent to beat you at a game is prevent you from even knowing you're playing one at all.
It’s some short pieces of “fiction”, but (like you, it sounds) I’m always struck by what seems like Truth buried under the labels like “fiction” and “myth” and “legend”
It's all over my head, really. The thrust of my research seems to have turned out to be just giving an account of the available evidence to some level of satisfaction. Just trying to make all the pieces fit together in a sensible way. That's deep enough, as you might imagine.
I just wandered my way in to it all, but the account I ended up with is beyond strange, way past anything the vast majority of people could even imagine to be true, let alone entertain the evidence for. Although it's a satisfying level of knowledge, it's quite lonely.
But as far as fiction, myth and legend, I've found a tremendous amount of truth buried and ignored there, completely passed by. As an example (and a central one), I found that the Bible, particularly the OT, was an account of the interactions of some humans with the powerful aliens that created us. As strange as that sounds, it connects up with and is expanded by what the much more ancient Sumerians wrote about their interactions with their "gods".
And as strange as that all sounds, it was confirmed by subtle but unmistakable clues and references planted in Season 1 of "Westworld". Can you even imagine that? Almost no one can, which is why they can put these signals out so freely.
I couldn't make any of this up if I tried for a century.
Over your head? I doubt that, but maybe the total lack of context threw you off, but it’s almost anthropomorphizing Yin/Yang dynamics or “the force” from Star Wars. Gardener = Light = “good” / Winnower = Darkness = “bad” with many more layers thrown in for good measure.
This one always gets me, and it works with basically no context needed:
Thank you for making room in your life for another talking ball. Let me ask you a question.
In the three billion base pairs of your root species' genome, there is a single gene that codes for a protein called p53. The name is a mistake. The protein weighs only as much as 47,000 protons, not 53,000. If you were a cell, you would think p53 was a mistake too. It has several coercive functions: To delay the cell's growth. To sterilize the cell when it is old. And to force the cell into self-destruction if it becomes too independent.
Would you tolerate a bomb in your body, waiting to detonate if you deviated from the needs of society?
However, without p53 as an enforcer, the body's utopian surplus of energy becomes a paradise for cancer. Cells cannot resist the temptation to steal from that surplus.
Their genetic morality degrades as tumor suppressor genes fail. The only way to stop them is by punishment.
You now confront the basic problem of morality. It is the alignment of individual incentives with the global needs of the structure.
Patterns will participate in a structure only if participation benefits their ability to go on existing. The more successful the structure grows, the more temptation accrues to cheat. And the greater the advantage the cheaters gain over their honest neighbors. And the greater the ability they develop to capture the very laws that should prevent their selfishness. To prevent this, the structure must punish cheaters with a violence that grows in proportion to its own success.
My question follows.
Is p53 an agent of the Darkness, or the Light?
I found that the Bible, particularly the OT, was an account of the interactions of some humans with the powerful aliens that created us.
Have you seen the work of the former Vatican official translator Mauro Biglino? It speaks directly to this, and some of the things he brings up I had never seen mentioned or considered before - unfortunately almost all of his output is in Italian (often translated in subtitles) - I often recommend a short video series he did:
Mauro Biglino - the Naked Bible / the Literal Bible (6 videos, ~15m each)
And regarding Westworld, despite being a big fan of Michael Criton, I’ve not yet read the book, seen the movie, nor the show. Maybe I’ll have to check out that first season soon.
quite lonely
Cheers brother, the irony is you aren’t alone in that feeling
Yes, I'm certainly familiar with Biglino's work and recommend it to those (regrettably few) that already express an interest in that area. Otherwise it's like throwing ping-pong balls at a brick wall. And as time goes on, I think more and more that it's not ethically sound even to expose people to knowledge you know they will reject. Still up in the air.
A few notes on Biglino and his work you might find of interest:
First--and not that you should be taking anyone's word on such things--but as strange as his findings are, I came to all the same conclusions (and beyond) before I'd ever heard of him. And it was through an entirely different approach: he from translation and etymology, and myself through Sumerian mythology. Impossible to think that we arrived at the same place simply by happenstance. Far easier to believe that we both just arrived at the truth.
Second, I believe he says less than he knows and thinks. This goes back to what I mentioned in the first paragraph. He's in a deeply Catholic country, and this type of research is... beyond challenging to that context. You'd have more success going around telling every Italian that he was adopted. So he goes more into detail and less into sweeping implications (which is what I'm interested in).
Third, I think They are in the process of "turning" him, which is a big disappointment. I saw he was interviewed by the highest-profile disinformation agent in this area, Graham Hancock. I haven't yet had the heart to actually watch it because I fear the worst. Another researcher from over twenty years ago, Alan Alford, was turned in such a way. I could name many others that exist just to send you off into the weeds, so always keep your wits about you even with Mauro.
Final note on "Westworld": what I said only applies to Season 1 of the recent reboot and none of the rest of the franchise. I scraped Season 2, being well aware of what I was looking for and found virtually nothing. The, uh, "message senders" had apparently moved on.
As to the last thing you mentioned, free will, I think that's a crucial aspect of what's going on but not in the sense everyone seems to think. Rather than being something to do with some "cosmic" or "karmic" sense of it, I think it's much more concrete. That is, I think a deal was put in place a long time ago and has been playing out since then, and here is the clearest description I've found of it:
Allah Fights the Jinn
So do I think it's about supernatural beings from some divine realm? Not at all. I think very real events took place on very real Earth in the very real past, but the evidence of them has been mythologized, fractured, rewritten, misinterpreted, smeared together, hidden, destroyed, etc, etc., but the tiny pieces remain that we have to try to put together.
So we can start to form explanations for things we find. Did Pike, out of nowhere, think serving a non-existent Lucifer was a great idea and that fooling people into it over decades was the best way to go? No, he was just a player in a much bigger game to be played according to certain rules that would be enforced at the end.
And how about demons, or aliens, or breakaway Elites with advanced technology: If they're so powerful, why don't they just put the zap on all of us sheep? Either they're not powerful or it's not allowed, and they're afraid of forfeiting or being punished at the end. Which, of course, entail the existence of an enforcer.
But the big picture, as I see it, is that the best way for your opponent to beat you at a game is prevent you from even knowing you're playing one at all.
I’d be interested in your thoughts on this:
https://communities.win/c/Manna/p/16birKnN57/the-game-of-life--is-a-game-that/c
It’s some short pieces of “fiction”, but (like you, it sounds) I’m always struck by what seems like Truth buried under the labels like “fiction” and “myth” and “legend”
It's all over my head, really. The thrust of my research seems to have turned out to be just giving an account of the available evidence to some level of satisfaction. Just trying to make all the pieces fit together in a sensible way. That's deep enough, as you might imagine.
I just wandered my way in to it all, but the account I ended up with is beyond strange, way past anything the vast majority of people could even imagine to be true, let alone entertain the evidence for. Although it's a satisfying level of knowledge, it's quite lonely.
But as far as fiction, myth and legend, I've found a tremendous amount of truth buried and ignored there, completely passed by. As an example (and a central one), I found that the Bible, particularly the OT, was an account of the interactions of some humans with the powerful aliens that created us. As strange as that sounds, it connects up with and is expanded by what the much more ancient Sumerians wrote about their interactions with their "gods".
And as strange as that all sounds, it was confirmed by subtle but unmistakable clues and references planted in Season 1 of "Westworld". Can you even imagine that? Almost no one can, which is why they can put these signals out so freely.
I couldn't make any of this up if I tried for a century.
Over your head? I doubt that, but maybe the total lack of context threw you off, but it’s almost anthropomorphizing Yin/Yang dynamics or “the force” from Star Wars. Gardener = Light = “good” / Winnower = Darkness = “bad” with many more layers thrown in for good measure.
This one always gets me, and it works with basically no context needed:
Have you seen the work of the former Vatican official translator Mauro Biglino? It speaks directly to this, and some of the things he brings up I had never seen mentioned or considered before - unfortunately almost all of his output is in Italian (often translated in subtitles) - I often recommend a short video series he did:
Mauro Biglino - the Naked Bible / the Literal Bible (6 videos, ~15m each)
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL87B03D75BCE4870A
And regarding Westworld, despite being a big fan of Michael Criton, I’ve not yet read the book, seen the movie, nor the show. Maybe I’ll have to check out that first season soon.
Cheers brother, the irony is you aren’t alone in that feeling
Yes, I'm certainly familiar with Biglino's work and recommend it to those (regrettably few) that already express an interest in that area. Otherwise it's like throwing ping-pong balls at a brick wall. And as time goes on, I think more and more that it's not ethically sound even to expose people to knowledge you know they will reject. Still up in the air.
A few notes on Biglino and his work you might find of interest:
First--and not that you should be taking anyone's word on such things--but as strange as his findings are, I came to all the same conclusions (and beyond) before I'd ever heard of him. And it was through an entirely different approach: he from translation and etymology, and myself through Sumerian mythology. Impossible to think that we arrived at the same place simply by happenstance. Far easier to believe that we both just arrived at the truth.
Second, I believe he says less than he knows and thinks. This goes back to what I mentioned in the first paragraph. He's in a deeply Catholic country, and this type of research is... beyond challenging to that context. You'd have more success going around telling every Italian that he was adopted. So he goes more into detail and less into sweeping implications (which is what I'm interested in).
Third, I think They are in the process of "turning" him, which is a big disappointment. I saw he was interviewed by the highest-profile disinformation agent in this area, Graham Hancock. I haven't yet had the heart to actually watch it because I fear the worst. Another researcher from over twenty years ago, Alan Alford, was turned in such a way. I could name many others that exist just to send you off into the weeds, so always keep your wits about you even with Mauro.
Final note on "Westworld": what I said only applies to Season 1 of the recent reboot and none of the rest of the franchise. I scraped Season 2, being well aware of what I was looking for and found virtually nothing. The, uh, "message senders" had apparently moved on.