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Here's what cluster bombs do and why they're so controversial (NYT) (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by iloveturtles 2 years ago by iloveturtles +10 / -0
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– iloveturtles [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Here is video of a cluster bomb lands in a neighborhood street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYDUN_e9Xis

Here is another video (different incident) of the aftermath of a Ukrainian cluster bomb missile detonating in the Donetsk, Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNhDKGjNK8

Another problem is many of the bombs are duds and don't go off. Extensive sweeping has to be done after the conflict to reduce risk of civilians getting killed or injured from unexploded clusters.

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– Disastrous_Aioli 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Extensive sweeping it might be an understatement. According to Reuters, Ukraine is specifically asking for Mk 20 Rockeye II cluster bombs. Also known as CBU-100, Ukraine’s reported plan for the weapons would not involve dropping them from combat aircraft. Instead, they would take the Mk 20s apart and their sub-munitions would be adapted into bomblets that will be dropped by lower-end drones.

They would cover a vast area making it impossible to grow anything, or do any rebuilding, for many years or decades to come. By now the Ukrainians have realized they can't win the conflict, or get any territory back ... and don't want the Russians to grow crops there either.

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– DontPanic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

France grew crops just fine with thousands of dud WW1 bombs including mustard gas ones buried in their fields.

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– Disastrous_Aioli 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

So you think it's OK to use cluster bombs over some of the most fertile parts on planet Earth, that's Eastern Ukraine? anything you plant there grows almost instantly. Just to give you an idea about this, and what Hitler thought about this area, he instructed all German commanders with trucks retreating or coming back from the Eastern front, to bring loads of dirt from Ukraine back to Germany.

Why do you think BlackRock has secured over 30% of Ukraine landmass part of the rebuilding agreement with the Zelensky government? that is if Zelensky somehow manages to get back the land from the occupying Russian forces, and hold on to what's left of Ukraine. Some could argue this land is more valuable than gold.

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– DontPanic 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They are already using Depleted Uranium shells on their own fields so its probably too late to save

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– Disastrous_Aioli 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I believe only UK has supplied Ukraine with depleted uranium shells up to now, but US has pledged to follow this lead.

Did you know, US dropped 270 million cluster bombs on Laos. 50 years later, civilians (and children) are still being blown up by the bombs: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0iRRAIWYAAlR2z?format=jpg&name=large

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 0 points 2 years ago +3 / -3

There was no nuclear fallout in nagasaki or hiroshima. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.

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– iloveturtles [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

There was no nuclear fallout in nagasaki or hiroshima. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.

Someone has been watching a few too many Owen Benjamin clips.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

And Crrow777 who had a former native of Nagasaki speak on show

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– Eisenhorn -1 points 2 years ago +2 / -3

Funny how when Russia has been using cluster bombs, none of the Russkie shills cared about them.

Now, suddenly CLUSTERBOMBS ARE LE EVIL.

If they help Ukraine get rid of the Russian invaders, let them have as many as they want

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

Russkie shill - someone who has no interest in going to the other side of the earth to murder russians over a narrow strip of shitty land on Russia's border that jews such as Victoria Jewland tried to hijack by installing corrupt hand picked jew shills for Ukraine's government along with drop boxes and fake elections in Ukraine that oppress all russian speaking people within the nation.

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– Eisenhorn -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

The war can be over today. All it takes is for Russia to leave.

Why don't they?

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

The war can be over today. All it takes is for Jews and Zionist American Shills to leave Ukraine and stop using it as a proxy criminal corruption and money laundering territory for pedophiles, weapons dealers, international military industrial complex, Big evil oil kingpins fighting for gas pipelines and oil profits, child traffickers, bio-weapons of mass destruction and mass murder, and phony stolen elections with ballot stuffing and foreign jews such as Victoria Nuland selecting all the state officials thereby depriving native Ukrainians of legitimate representation, meaning the government is fraudulent (ZOG) and run by foreign jews.

And yet you fall for all of it. But you know about everything I've stated. Meaning that you are just a shill for ZOG. Go brainwash Republicans and DemoKKKrats with your ZOG propaganda and "muh ukraine" propaganda. No one here falls for it.

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– Eisenhorn 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Why is Russia not ending the war?

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

Because they never declared the war.

They merely annexed a small region wherein over 90% of the civilians SPEAK RUSSIAN and WANTED TO BE PART OF RUSSIA.

Why are you denying the Russian speaking people of Crimea their own freedom and destiny? Because you are a conqueror and war mongerer and Jew shill.

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– Eisenhorn 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Why did Putin not allow the Chechens to have their own country then?

Why doesn't he stop the war? Thenpeople he alledgedly cares about so much are dying in it.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

He can stop the war any time he wants to when he mass bombs Zelensky and his coward cabal of lying pedophile jews and azov battalion neo-nazi fags. Putin's mercy is saving lives by sparing lives that would otherwise be collateral damage since pedophile jews like to hide behind children.

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