So what’s the deal with Jews do they totally disregard the Torah aka Old Testament? Or is it just the Jews that follow in the Talmud that believe in this stuff? It’s totally contradictory to the Torah. Am I wrong or are there two sects of Jews those that practice just the Torah and those who follow the Talmud over the Torah?
Edit... what’s the oral Torah? The Talmud or Kabbalah?
Here’s the short answer. Most view the rabbi debates in the Talmud ect as superseding the Torah. So they don’t have to follow the original Old Testament.
Ah I found the answer. So there are some that don’t believe this stuff seems a small group. How do they explain the contradictions of the written and oral Torah ? “ The major repositories of the Oral Torah are the Mishnah, compiled between 200–220 CE by Rabbi Yehudah haNasi, and the Gemara, a series of running commentaries and debates concerning the Mishnah, which together form the Talmud, the preeminent text of Rabbinic Judaism. In fact, two "versions" of the Talmud exist: one produced in the Galilee c. 300–350 CE (the Jerusalem Talmud), and a second, more extensive Talmud compiled in Babylonia c. 450–500 CE (the Babylonian Talmud).
Belief that at least portions of the Oral Torah were transmitted orally from God to Moses on Mount Sinai during the Exodus from Egypt is a fundamental tenet of faith of Orthodox Judaism, and was recognized as one of the Thirteen Principles of Faith by Maimonides. However, not all new branches of Rabbinic inspired ideologies accept the literal Sinaitic provenance of the Oral Torah, characterizing it instead as the product of a historical process of continuing interpretation.
There have also been historical dissenters to the Oral Torah in its entirety, including the ancient Sadducees, Essenes, and adherents to modern Karaite Judaism, who derive their religious practice strictly from the Written Torah, using Scripture's most natural meaning to form their basis of Jewish law. Karaites often look to traditions of interpretation but, unlike Rabbinic Jews, do not ascribe to those traditions authoritative or normative parity with the Written Torah. The Beta Israel, who traditionally adhere to a form of Judaism referred to as Haymanot, also reject the idea of an Oral Torah.[2][3]”
Gemara contains those who fall for suggested information; while mishnah teaches those who adapt to perceivable inspiration how to deal with those within gemara (talmudic reasoning).
Only oneself can grow self discernment about being perceiving partial within perceivable whole, which requires ones free will of choice to resist suggestions by others.
If one consents to suggested words over perceivable sound, then one will be stuck reasoning over suggested, hence giving those suggesting the power of ones consent to define (idolatry); redefine (revisionism) and contradict (talmudic reasoning) the suggested meaning at will.
If one resists reason (want vs not want; belief vs disbelief; truth vs lies; agree vs disagree etc.) for implication (if/then, hence in accordance with momentum/balance), then mishnah can help one to resist as center, while being surrounded by gemara followers and their temptations.
authoritative or normative parity
a) author (inception towards death) authorizes resistance (life)...others suggest progressivism, hence tempting one to follow orders; norms; rules of behavior etc. instead of being free will of choice resistance within natural order.
b) suggested equality (same) through diversity (difference) represents the inversion of being different (partial temporary growth) within sameness (whole ongoing loss). Parity suggests being equal...being one implies different from every other one, hence partial within whole.
So what’s the deal with Jews do they totally disregard the Torah aka Old Testament? Or is it just the Jews that follow in the Talmud that believe in this stuff? It’s totally contradictory to the Torah. Am I wrong or are there two sects of Jews those that practice just the Torah and those who follow the Talmud over the Torah? Edit... what’s the oral Torah? The Talmud or Kabbalah?
Here’s the short answer. Most view the rabbi debates in the Talmud ect as superseding the Torah. So they don’t have to follow the original Old Testament.
Ah I found the answer. So there are some that don’t believe this stuff seems a small group. How do they explain the contradictions of the written and oral Torah ? “ The major repositories of the Oral Torah are the Mishnah, compiled between 200–220 CE by Rabbi Yehudah haNasi, and the Gemara, a series of running commentaries and debates concerning the Mishnah, which together form the Talmud, the preeminent text of Rabbinic Judaism. In fact, two "versions" of the Talmud exist: one produced in the Galilee c. 300–350 CE (the Jerusalem Talmud), and a second, more extensive Talmud compiled in Babylonia c. 450–500 CE (the Babylonian Talmud).
Belief that at least portions of the Oral Torah were transmitted orally from God to Moses on Mount Sinai during the Exodus from Egypt is a fundamental tenet of faith of Orthodox Judaism, and was recognized as one of the Thirteen Principles of Faith by Maimonides. However, not all new branches of Rabbinic inspired ideologies accept the literal Sinaitic provenance of the Oral Torah, characterizing it instead as the product of a historical process of continuing interpretation.
There have also been historical dissenters to the Oral Torah in its entirety, including the ancient Sadducees, Essenes, and adherents to modern Karaite Judaism, who derive their religious practice strictly from the Written Torah, using Scripture's most natural meaning to form their basis of Jewish law. Karaites often look to traditions of interpretation but, unlike Rabbinic Jews, do not ascribe to those traditions authoritative or normative parity with the Written Torah. The Beta Israel, who traditionally adhere to a form of Judaism referred to as Haymanot, also reject the idea of an Oral Torah.[2][3]”
a) suggested words (both written and oral) contradict perceivable sound if consented to.
b) TORAH (instruction; imparting of knowledge; authoritative direction) implies perceivable inspiration...not suggested information.
Gemara contains those who fall for suggested information; while mishnah teaches those who adapt to perceivable inspiration how to deal with those within gemara (talmudic reasoning).
Only oneself can grow self discernment about being perceiving partial within perceivable whole, which requires ones free will of choice to resist suggestions by others.
If one consents to suggested words over perceivable sound, then one will be stuck reasoning over suggested, hence giving those suggesting the power of ones consent to define (idolatry); redefine (revisionism) and contradict (talmudic reasoning) the suggested meaning at will.
If one resists reason (want vs not want; belief vs disbelief; truth vs lies; agree vs disagree etc.) for implication (if/then, hence in accordance with momentum/balance), then mishnah can help one to resist as center, while being surrounded by gemara followers and their temptations.
a) author (inception towards death) authorizes resistance (life)...others suggest progressivism, hence tempting one to follow orders; norms; rules of behavior etc. instead of being free will of choice resistance within natural order.
b) suggested equality (same) through diversity (difference) represents the inversion of being different (partial temporary growth) within sameness (whole ongoing loss). Parity suggests being equal...being one implies different from every other one, hence partial within whole.