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Air Force A.I Drone Kills Its Human Operator in a Simulation (taskandpurpose.com)
posted 123 days ago by Questionable 123 days ago by Questionable +16 / -1
Air Force AI drone kills its human operator in a simulation
An Air Force AI got a little too good at its job, deciding to kill its human overseers to accomplish its mission
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– Questionable [S] 3 points 123 days ago +3 / -0

A cursory glace and search of key words and names from the author shows that the other articles I checked, are legitimate.

Can you detail to me, what it is about this article that makes you believe it to be fabricated?

In addition, the quote is located in the text at the linked source.

https://www.aerosociety.com/news/highlights-from-the-raes-future-combat-air-space-capabilities-summit/

“We were training it in simulation to identify and target a SAM threat. And then the operator would say yes, kill that threat. The system started realising that while they did identify the threat at times the human operator would tell it not to kill that threat, but it got its points by killing that threat. So what did it do? It killed the operator. It killed the operator because that person was keeping it from accomplishing its objective.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Aeronautical_Society

Abbreviation RAeS Formation January 1866

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– turtlebam 1 point 122 days ago +1 / -0

Think of it this way: Why would they publish such a thing if it really happened?

They only published it because they wanted to publish it. News is not just new and interesting stuff. It's all propaganda. u/Primate98 has a point.

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– Primate98 0 points 123 days ago +2 / -2

How about we start with this apparent contradiction: the drone requires operator permission to engage the target, but does not require permission to engage the operator?

Pushing further, did you ever ask yourself how the drone would know the location of the operator? And once located, how a drone outfitted for a SEAD mission (and almost certainly with anti-radiation missiles) would target whatever facility the operator was located in? How close do you think operators of remotely piloted vehicles need to be to intended targets? I suspect that, no, you never thought these issues through for yourself.

No need to thank me for the lesson, but do you really need to outsource your thinking so publicly like this? When challenged (and I suspect you interpreted what I wrote as a challenge), your first reaction should have been to carefully reexamine your own reasoning for flaws, not move to justify it. As I mentioned, the results of this little experiment are not encouraging.

If this all comes off as unnecessarily harsh, all I can say is that to get to the truth, you need to be harsher on your own thinking than anyone else in the world. Guess how I know?

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– Questionable [S] 1 point 123 days ago +1 / -0

You've based your conclusion on too many assumed programing parameters. Where as I believe the question that should be asked, is was the A.I set up to fail, or simply allowed to? And if the RAeS has a motive for encouraging either of those outcomes.

I think it is important to remember that you can use any data to support your outcome. As, you can more easily manipulate data, then outright fabricate it. Fabrication is for misinformation, where as manipulation is to effect the outcome.

And what outcomes does the RAeS wish to see in this test run?

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– Primate98 -1 points 123 days ago +2 / -3

You know, I had actually written out a prediction that you would never answer any of the questions I posed, but I removed it at the last minute as being too obviously implying a lack of intellectual and rational ability. Turns out I should have left it in.

Thanks for your useless and garbled advice. Good luck, with this or anything else.

(To everyone else, maybe what we have just witnessed it AI promoting a planted story about the capabilities of AI. Can you really put it beyond where we're at now? Alternatively, is it better or worse news if some humans are able to function no better than ChatGPT?)

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