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Once again using rare dramatics, this time to remove the right to home school your child. (nymag.com)
posted 2 years ago by Michalusmichalus 2 years ago by Michalusmichalus +16 / -0
Children Are Not Property
The idea that underlies the right-wing campaign for “parents’ rights.”
nymag.com
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– Primate98 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I would guess that for a number that rounds up to 100% of the readers (well, those who don't realize NYMag is anything other than propaganda and social engineering) all their cognitive processes halted as soon as they hit "right-wing" in the subhead.

How many of them stopped right there to consider: "If children do not in some sense 'belong' to parents who would then exercise a level of control over them, to whom would they belong? Are they just like wild animals belonging to no one? What other candidates are there? Passersby? Highest bidders? Ah, of course, the only other reasonable candidate is the State. Children are not property, and thus belong to the State. Wait--is that right?"

Through this "reductio ad absurdum" we can see that these people cannot possibly be exercising rational cognitive processes. We should all stop silently assuming they do.

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– SicilianOmega 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

What liberals actually believe is that children are adults, and therefore belong to no one in the same sense that you belong to no one. It sounds ridiculous, but these are the same people who believe animals are people, men are women, good is evil, lies are truth, and niggers are human.

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– Primate98 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I wonder how they settled the issue about when a "mass of cells" becomes an adult?

Ha, as if! Typical trick question by conservatives! The answer is "whenever is convenient to the liberal claim at hand, but better left undefined, and better left unrecognized".

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– SicilianOmega 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I wonder how they settled the issue about when a "mass of cells" becomes an adult?

Obviously, they consult the Talmud, which says the breath of life, which they also consider to be the soul, enters the body when the baby first gets air in its lungs. And now you know why liberals are so insistent on believing that life does not begin at conception. Their god (Ba'al) says it doesn't!

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Using the extreme cases of child abuse to say the children shouldn't be allowed to not be programmed by the state.

Taken to extremes, the concept of parental rights can be dangerous and even deadly for children. Proponents, like Farris and Rushdoony before him, ignore the basic fact that the home is often no refuge but a place of domination and abuse. The National Children’s Alliance says that over 600,000 children were documented victims of abuse and neglect in 2020. In 77 percent of substantiated cases, a parent committed the abuse. The language of parental rights can become a license to torture, as it did in the case of 13-year-old Hana Grace-Rose Williams. In 2011, officials found her “face down, naked and emaciated in the backyard,” the New York Times reported. An investigation later reported malnutrition and hypothermia as her causes of death. Her adoptive parents, Larry and Carri Williams, were reportedly followers of Michael and Debi Pearl and their book, To Train Up a Child. The book, named for that verse in Proverbs, urges corporal punishment with a switch and says that “a little fasting is good training.” By the time of the Times report, three children, including Williams, had died in homes with the Pearls’ book on the shelves. The Williams parents are now serving decades in prison for the girl’s murder.

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– SicilianOmega 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

This piece is masterful jewish propaganda. The very next paragraph is blatant gaslighting on how it is violence! when parents refuse to allow doctors to put their kids on puberty blockers, and how kids need drugs and surgery that make them way more likely to commit suicide to prevent them from committing suicide. Oh, and it's also a myth that doctors are trying to put kids on drugs and do surgeries on them, it says. And it's child abuse!!! when LGBTQ activists who have infiltrated schools can't secretly groom children and are forced to tell parents what they've been up to.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

children are the property of the state

There, saved you a click. When they say something belongs to """the people""", or something cannot be owned, they really mean it belongs to them.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That's what this propaganda is leading to.

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– the-new-style 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

If you want to get the source material from the Libertarian Perspective then head over to The Mises Institute and Rothbard's Children and Rights.

He argues that leaving your children to starve is fine because they cannot impose themselves on your right to self autonomy.

And selling them is also fine because why not?

If you want the opposite, where children are property of the state, then pop over to The Communist Manifesto

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– alabaster 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So there's the ((())) perspective and the ((())) perspective...

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– the-new-style 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They are the absurd extremists, yes.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They didn't like, " It takes a community to raise a child" because that was adult supervision. When I was growing up playing outside ( gasp) any neighbor would open their door and set me straight, and then tell my parents. Times have changed.

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