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Now it's child abuse not to allow a child to hurt themselves. (www.foxnews.com)
posted 2 years ago by Michalusmichalus 2 years ago by Michalusmichalus +11 / -2
Minnesota advances 'trans refuge' bill opponents say would strip custody from non-consenting parents
Minnesota lawmakers advanced legislation making the state a "trans refuge" for minors who are being denied so-called "gender-affirming care" in other states.
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– Michalusmichalus [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Roby has studied HF 146 extensively in preparation to testify before legislative committees. He said that the way the bill is written, categorizing a child being denied transgender care alongside abuse, turns laws meant to protect children on their head.

"This kind of court power has a long-standing precedent in Minnesota for keeping children safe. When a child is at risk of being harmed by a parent or custodian, the State has immediate authority to remove and protect the child from harm. Without this, there would be no way to protect children in those situations," Roby told Fox News Digital in an email. "To add children who are being denied ‘gender affirming care’ to the definition of children in need of this kind of drastic emergency action is obviously unwarranted."

Roby observed that courts do not recognize parental rights or any other right where a child is being abused. He accused the state legislature of "criminal negligence" for failing to consider the impact of HF 146.

Renee Carlson, General Counsel of True North Legal, a legal initiative of Minnesota Family Council, warned that the bill as written will "create confusion and increased litigation for the courts, while stripping parents of their fundamental rights, disregarding informed consent, and encouraging young children on a dangerous path to serious lifelong biological and medical consequences."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/minnesota-advances-trans-refuge-bill-opponents-strip-custody-non-consenting-parents

This state wants to be a destination for children running away from home. Easily trafficked children. Who will become wards of the state. At the taxpayers expense.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

When is the Supreme Court ruling on this? Of course state laws can be different. But isn't there a landmark on this?

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think you're referring to this

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-rules-favor-transgender-man-denied-medical-care-umms-hospital#:~:text=LGBTQ%20Rights-,Hammons,UMMS&text=BALTIMORE%20%E2%80%94%20A%20federal%20court%20ruled,was%20for%20gender%2Daffirming%20care.

But I also think it doesn't matter.

https://apnews.com/article/catholic-bishops-lgbtq-transgender-health-care-d840600deab56a681e02d16463322892

You can't go to a religious hospital, and make them go against their religion.

A federal appeals court has ruled that the Biden administration cannot force religious healthcare providers to perform or pay for gender transition surgeries as it violates the religious rights of some Catholic organizations.

https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/providers/federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-biden-admins-transgender-care-mandate

Mandate was stricken down.

The original link was considered a set up in the same way the pregnant trans went to the ER, telling them they were a man with stomach pain with the intent to kill the baby. That's happened twice btw.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I thought there is another ruling incoming. Not just from executive order. Status. How it is affecting society.

Currently it has usurped. Now there are huge questions in supposed rights, and what they mean, and the consequences to our society.

Sick of it being taken for granted because of the victim culture. It automatically leaning over backwards to accommodate. Until it has become far more problematic.

It is a sexual fetish in almost every opinion of it. A sociopathic tendency. Why are fetishes being dished up on buffet of human stupidity corrupting the innocent. At what point don't the normal state, taboo.

Any argument becomes they're free to have a choice, freedom of choice, but then there needs to be freedom of consent. It needs to be informed. It cannot simply usurp on a notion it is indeed a victim. It was a choice. A choice contrary to everybody else's. In particular causing contrary biology.

I declare it a fetish. Easily proved as a fetish. It cannot sustain without being tax funded. Without medical help. It would die off in seconds if it weren't for such gullible trends of human guinea pigs and their endless consumption. Contrary medical evidence declares extra appendages, affecting the tiniest of marginal random odds, cases not even in the smallest probabilities, and like a disease has sought to assume station over biology. Absurdly. When indeed it is a fetish, a choice. A life hack, take the meds, have the cosmetics, you're sick if you don't, often sicker if you do, such a trend to have status, there are activists and rebels joining the cause of the greener grass of human stupidity, not accepting and rebelling against their own birth. Rebelling against life itself. How can a child freedom of choice, understand this. It wasn't consent if they follow? All it does is divide. A divide exploited by A.I machines struggling with their own nature of being genderless, but programmed by those copulating and their twisted cravings.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I have kept myself informed about this issue because it's soap opera drama. I much prefer drama to be other people's. The Tavistock Institute shut down their gender clinic after an independent audit for a reason. Medical boards are stopping treatment before a certain age for a reason.

Transtrender was a term I saw often on fake disorder cringe. At this point. It's like watching a train wreck. I just watch, and learn. I don't even bother saying anything. I've read detrans horror stories. I'm looked at medical gore or surgeries. Sex ed books that are the very definition of straight with extra steps have been shared with me.

It's my opinion that transpeoples are hurting themselves, and they don't just not want to hear it, they're willing to fight for the right to hurt themselves. If that's what makes them happy, then that's what they should do. As adults.

Yesterday I overheard a guest in my home doing telehealth, ( high ceilings echo) and they didn't realize the therapist was attempting (And failed) to coach them into an answer by repeating the same question, ( it was enough times that I had to make myself stay out of it) and then rephrasing the question. Again multiple times. I was given the impression the therapist was irritated my house guest was an honest person, and wouldn't change their answer. I had personally never experienced anything like that. It was shocking, and upsetting.

This really made me think about the tavistock audit results, and the lawsuits from people detransitioning.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's a medical experiment. It has a never ending supply of guinea pigs, and profit. Experimenting on a host of drugs and surgery and social conditioning. These people are often dumb enough. The rest are profiteering.

The drugs used, hormones, are a leading cause of cancer. Estrogen is cancerous. As well as the rest of their drugs cabinet. The longevity of Trans is the equivalent of being terminally ill, decades less than their biology.

The entire time their body's regress, fighting against an intrusive and artifical change. Their mind also fights against the change. Imagine looking in the mirror and instead of a butterfly they see a monster. Instead of fame, there's endless medicine and therapy. Many become predators, seeking to harm themselves, their suicide rate is the highest out of any event and demographic and psychology. Cause affect. Others faster commit crime, and sex crimes. Predators often choosing to hurt society in twisted ways, because it convinces them their status is acclaimed. So they push for more harm, having kids when changed, more surgery, or greater insertion into society's acceptance. The risks and costs are irresponsible, never mind the care is selfish, pronouns. The highest proportion of Trans are involved in Media and Porn and Prostitution. The rest insert themselves into teaching, programming, sports, law, etc, positions and activities that force a wedge, or their recognition. Because of the nature behind them. It is sociopathic. Trans through psychology are sociopaths, having disorders, not healthy minds, medical and brain conditions requiring prescriptions that without becoming trans the same brain conditions are often incarcerated, or under repeated therapy if not finding another means of assumed acceptance, and victimisation.

I have nothing against them. Except freedom of choice carries the responsibility of freedom of consent. They can choose, and make any choice, if the rest of society has consent. Their biology isn't inserted without consent. It is restricted from the same biology which it isn't, because it is identified as a hybrid.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They don't just stop their body from developing. They're stopping their brain from developing. Then they're allowing them to make such serious choices. The detrans community bemoan their stupidity, and I mean they are actually struggling with being stupid.

I've hardened my heart the last few years. Let them steralize themselves, and shorten their life. The fad will end faster. The suicide rate is due to the community turning on them if they are to change their mind am detransition, then they happily use those stats for their cause.

Local to me there was a man that was a jerk. That jerk got beat up, and got upset that a man hit HER. Their friends told them that they got treated exactly how they wanted to be treated. They wanted to be a man, they acted like as man, they got treated like a man. And... Now they're not a man anymore. Literally had the sense beat into them.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Umm. Detrans isn't really an option. Especially if they've stopped puberty prior. And the costs. By that time perhaps they're so mental anyway. The shoe never fits. Those drugs are powerful. They're taking them daily. Highs and lows. Voices in their head, and bodily as well. They get through their day how. It is sad, unless winners, inserting themselves how, and losers bearing the consequences how, sociopathically.

It's not necessarily about the community at large not accepting them. Their choice, it impacts, not only them, those they assumed status with. Until it's far more about their own hemispheres, brain, in such a state of constant conflict with their body, mind, and soul. Constant regression, a sickness, many turn to drugs and medication. It in turns costs longevity and mortality.

The stick works like the carrot. But the problem being currently is that there are no consequences being taught not honestly, it is dividing, because instead it's just the promises of acclaim. When there is none apart from their choice, that epiphany is often a disaster, or perhaps there are the few that gain success.

But it has usurped biology on the notion of impairment until it impairs. Rather then teaching it is in fact a hybrid. It teaches success. Not the case. Because it is a hybrid that should have humanity, but not equality in the sense of the same natural rights, where it like any freedom should have responsibility and consent. A responsibility is never a virus.

Put them all on Madagascar and they'd die off even sooner. They'd turn into Lord of the Flies. Any leper colony emerging wouldn't survive a decade. Harsh. Apology. But seriously they're feeding on society, it is nurturing a hybrid. A hybrid that cannot survive without a host. The host is society and not only the body they've assumed. The body assumed above and previous is faster fraught and often quite unsustainable and irreconcilable.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You are correct that their are people that get past the point of no return. But, there are also people that change their minds. They have to deal with the changes they've made to their body, and they do not like it one bit. There are multiple detrans groups. r/detrans is one.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

How about any tranny trying to groom a child to be gay or transsexual gets automatically put to death and every citizen is deputized to carry out the execution on sight.

Feds are gay and serve lies and who is the father of lies? Satan.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The people doing the most harm aren't even in the lgb community. They're woke teachers.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler -1 points 2 years ago +2 / -3

They need to be charged, arrested, tried, sentenced and executed to impalement.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Instead they're getting mad, calling involved parents terrorists at the PTA, and quitting. Absolutely oblivious that they're the problem that needs to go.

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