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posted 2 years ago by dukey 2 years ago by dukey +37 / -1
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– ApexVeritas 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Also notice how they downvote us, even in c/conspiracies, while not refuting anything we've said. They're weak, have no counterpoints, and they know it. They can only survive in a censorship heavy environment. It won't matter, though. Lies always fail.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Too bad. I like debate and besides some surface level badgering and elbows in the ribs I will engage in a fair civil debate without taking too many cheap shots. For example i gave flat earthers fair consideration.

I am also always open to the possibility that I am actually fucking wrong on a topic or issue or debate. I actually like it when i come to a new revelation and realize something i long held to be true is in fact false, or vice versa. For some, they can't admit that whatever they first thought about anything is wrong because they have too big an ego built upon falsehoods, bad information, misplaced trust, etc.

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– ApexVeritas 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Absolutely agree. I always try to give people a chance to prove their point, and always consider that I might be wrong about something, in full or in part. I prioritize truth first, above all else, so I can learn. It's the reason why my profile name is what it is. However, I'll always challenge someone's position in a debate, usually through poking holes in their logic, as I hate getting into the back and forth posting of articles that each side tries to dismiss. Almost invariably, it results in people getting vitriolic, they start name calling, and resort to all manner of logically fallacious arguments. It's sad. They treat their opinions like an anchor. They cling to it even if it'll drown them, thinking they have no choice. Everyone has free will and can change their minds. Most refuse to, though, at least at first.

Even people who consider themselves right wing, will use the exact same globalist propaganda and arguments as the far left when you challenge their conditioned assumptions. That's probably why it's more infuriating to debate a normie right winger than a lefty. The right winger already knows the news, media, and government all lie, about everything, but they still cling onto lies they were taught in school, especially about history, or what the "authorities" say on medicine. They fall victim to the same logical fallacies as the left, appeals to emotion, popularity, and authority.

This is why my research into conspiracy theories was so crucial in red pilling me. It opened my eyes to all of this, with how corrupted the world actually is, what the people in power have done, what they've said, and what they're willing to do. I found out who I could trust, and who I couldn't. It wasn't even intentional at first either. I was more interested in stuff like bigfoot, ghosts, and aliens. Instead I learned way more about political and historical conspiracies.

I've also discovered a lot of shills too. Honestly challenging someone, their ideas, and not relenting, is a really good way to find out who a person is. They almost invariably get emotional and let things slip that they normally wouldn't. You can also infer a lot by what people say and how they say it, with just a modicum of experience and understanding of human motivations. I've changed quite a lot of my views over the last 10 years, some subtle, and some major, due to coming across better information and arguments. So I know from experience it's not impossible to change one's mind.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Very well stated. Glad you are here to think about this with the rest of us.

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– ApexVeritas 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You too. I've always enjoyed your comments.

Also, from what I've seen of your comments the last week or two, you seem to have attracted some obsessives that are downvoting all of your comments.

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