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Malaysia Commercial Airlines Flight 17 Shot Down Over Ukraine In 2014. Fake News Blamed Russia. Who Is Really Responsible? (www.bitchute.com)
posted 3 years ago by Vlad_The_Impaler 3 years ago by Vlad_The_Impaler +8 / -0
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– Primate98 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

A few notes on this incident (I didn't watch the whole video so I hope this isn't duplicative):

First, the aircraft was unmistakably the "missing" MH370. There were unique elements to the paint job and cabin arrangement of that aircraft, different from MH17, and visible in photos of the wreckage. Probably quite hard to find now.

Second, it was shot down by a Ukrainian Su-25 with an infrared air-to-air missile to the port engine then 30mm cannon fire to the cockpit. Again, 30mm shell holes, both incoming and outgoing, are clearly visible in the cockpit wreckage.

Third, Russia tried for a brief time to give Ukraine an out. They claimed they had data indicating it was a Buk air defense missile. The intent was to have Ukraine admit they fired it erroneously, and then everyone could "move on from the terrible tragedy". Obviously, Ukraine did not take this handout.

Fourth, a young, skinny Patrick Lancaster!

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– Vlad_The_Impaler [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

First, the aircraft was unmistakably the "missing" MH370

Surprised I don't hear more about this strange event. What makes it seem like a conspiracy is how thoroughly Hollywood and fake news tried to narrate and re-narrate what happened. They even have netflix movies on MH370 now. Reminds me of all the fake movies about capturing Osama Bin Laden.

Show down by Ukrainian military or by some rogue rebels who happened to come across powerful anti-aircraft ballistic missiles?

And if Ukraine murdered 300 civilians on a commercial plane, why aren't they heavily condemned and sanctioned? Seems that is an act of war.

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– Primate98 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You hit the nail on the head, in the reverso way the world really operates.

The reason they narrate and re-narrate events is that this is one of the most fundamental techniques of the Ministry of Truth: they keep telling their lies longer than anyone else can keep telling the truth. Simplicity itself, no?

By the time they get to making movies "based on a true story", that is really the "first draft of history". What is presented there will be all that the vast majority of people know about history (for those that know any history at all).

The technique is sublime. Being presented as "entertainment", all faculties of critical thinking are disabled. Also, any remaining normal process of logic gets inverted: "Well, yeah, they have to jazz it up a bit for the movies, but it's basically true." it's not the details that are fabricated, but the core events. It's all very diabolical, really.

The only question remaining is: will people finally learn "the truth" about MH17 on Netflix or HBO Max?

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– Vlad_The_Impaler [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

At the 54:30 mark in the video is John McCain, who was involved in Ukraine, explaining that the goal was to get "American energy to Ukraine and to Europe."

The war in Ukraine, according to McCain at this time, had to do with energy. Probably a pipeline.

Is there a major pipeline planned to go through Ukraine dating back to 2014 to present?

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– Vlad_The_Impaler [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

McCain, Graham call for US to arm Ukrainians BY KRISTINA WONG - 11/18/14 6:28 PM ET https://thehill.com/policy/defense/224619-mccain-graham-call-for-us-to-arm-ukrainians/

Dec 16, 2013, 3:23 PM John McCain Went To Ukraine And Stood On Stage With A Man Accused Of Being An Anti-Semitic Neo-Nazi https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahnybok-in-ukraine-2013-12

Updated March 28, 2022 at 9:40 a.m. EDT|Published March 28, 2022 at 6:00 a.m. EDT Ukraine’s pipelines are still carrying Russian gas to Europe https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/03/28/ukraine-russian-gas-europe-naftogaz/

Before USA bombed the Nord Stream2 pipeline, they were trying to shut it down. U.S. officials have signaled that they’ve given up on stopping the project, known as the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and are now scrambling to contain the damage by striking a grand bargain with Germany. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/20/us-ukraine-russia-pipeline-500334

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