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posted 2 years ago by TrueRenegade 2 years ago by TrueRenegade +11 / -1
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– MO-Carpenter 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This seems like a misunderstanding of Eastern Orthodoxy which is the oldest form of Christianity. The icons of Christ depicting just his head date back to the 300s AD. We have written accounts of older but the iconoclasts destroyed a lot of imagery

The ancient church is mystical. I don’t know what you’re saying about blood pouring from their golgatha, but I do know there are icons that weep myrrh.

As for the symbology they take the stance of baptizing the culture instead of completely changing the culture like say Roman Catholics did. Check out Saint Herman of Alaskas missionary efforts. They came to the Inuit learned their language and customs and converted them through baptizing the culture instead of changing their entire life. They believe there are “logos spermaticos” (seeds of truth) in many cultures. Think about it, I believe and they believe God is the Creator of the universe, that creation was good, but can be corrupted. They use symbols that were used Egyptian specifically palm leaf fans which will be in many orthodox church’s come Palm Sunday.

As for the skull of golgatha it is the valley of the skull and supposedly where adams skull was was also where Jesus was crucified. You’re walking past the symbolism of Jesus being crucified there not just as the new Adam, but also he was killed outside of the gates of Jerusalem. Showing his salvation is not just for the Jews but for everyone. Beyond that the skull and crucifix are also typically accompanied with a memento mori (remember you will die) element too. Reminding you of your mortality.

I don’t think Stalin is in an Orthodox Church but they definitely believe in keeping skulls and other relics and body parts of saints, which is also biblical. Elijiah bones for example brought someone back to life. The church/temple/parish I attend has skull fragments of many prominent saints.

Life and death are morbid symbology but you can’t give up skulls, or a wheel with spokes up to the occult.

Like Indians & Buddhists aren’t giving over the swastica to nazis without a fight. Symbols have context in how they were intended. It’s a huge leap to asign anything I’m seeing so far to the occult. It’s just very ancient and looks strange to most westerners who are not yet accustomed to the ancient faith.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Confirm that. Also, in Orthodox Christianity skull symbol have a different meaning than in Catolicism or wider in the Western culture, f.e. Skull symbolic in Orthodox Christian culture symbolize freedom from the death and possibility of salvation for anyone and also is a reminder about frailty of this world. It is not grim and frightening as in the West.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

Condensation on paintings is not a miracle

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– MO-Carpenter 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Do you know what myrrh is? It’s resin it’s fragrant and it’s impossible to confuse with condensation.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Symbols are considered sources of power in and of themselves

a) all suggested symbolism is shaped within and out of perceivable symmetry.

b) motion represents the source for both enacting symmetry and reacting symbolism. Consenting to the latter (suggested) tempts one to ignore the former (perceivable).

Symbols can have separate meanings

a) symmetry represents the ongoing whole (perceivable) for each partial (perceiving) within. Nature differentiates itself from whole (process of dying) into each partial (living).

b) perceivable symmetry represents "predefined" meaning, inherent within ongoing motion...perceivable from within as moving differences (inspiration). Others suggest symbolism as immovable idols (formed representation of flow information).

c) if one ignores perceivable meaning (inspiration) for suggested meaning (information), then one gives those suggesting the power of consent to define (idolatry); redefine (revisionism) and contradict (talmudic reasoning) the suggested meaning at will.

The few utilizes layer upon layers of suggested information to bury the consenting many underneath ignorance of perceivable inspiration. Example...suggested words as an overlay upon perceivable sound (spell-craft), hence tempting the consenting many to view the perceivable world through the lens of suggested labels, each one with different layers of meaning.

esoteric occult

a) Esoteric (life) within Exoteric (process of dying) aka ongoing impression (loss) for temporary expression (growth).

b) Nature reveals everything (perceivable) to everyone (perceiving). Ones choice to ignore perceivable (reality) for suggested (fiction) allows those suggesting to conceal; to hide; to occult it.

For oneself as the perceiving this represents comprehension (reveal; light) or ignorance (conceal, dark) of perceivable.

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