Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why - Birth of an old Religion
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I was mostly pleasantly surprised by this “article”. The person being interviewed seems to have a genuine interest in the subject, and even more rare than that - actual experience with it.
This is incorrect. All models (including the globe) suffer from an inability to explain gravitation. But the reason for that is that gravitation is not real, and so cannot be the cause of gravity.
Many flat earth researchers can explain gravity without difficulty, and their explanations are supported by observation and experiment (unlike gravitation).
In my view, this is equal parts contrived strawman (popularized by the flat earth society, and other groups - to make their followers appear/sound foolish) and satire. It is every bit as farcical and stupid to believe that the world accelerates upwards perpetually as it is to believe it pulls downwards perpetually.
Not a problem at all! Just a freshman level misunderstanding of relativity and the speed of light. However, it is stupid and unscientific to think anything - regardless of direction - is or ever could be accelerating perpetually.
True. Flat earth and flat earthers are a heavily advertised (i.e. funded) psyop. There are earnest researchers out there though, which the psyop exists to suppress and discredit.
Sadly the interviewee goes on to say that flat earth research and conventions are dangerous, implying that free thought and assembly on this topic ought to be outlawed, because it promotes/encourages other unpopular ideas.
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Gravity is a side effect of the electrical interactions in the universe, plasma cosmology has the most answers when it comes to the attempt to explain 'gravity'
Everything else, is still operating at a elementary level of understanding of the related concepts.
Flat earth is a preposterous suggestion to delve into with the evidence on hand.
There is good reason to keep it alive because in a world of bullshit, each piece matters.
It has been pushed as a religion for the weak minded the same crowd that pushes co2 climate control belief, same basket of retard.
My hypothesis is that real flat-Earthers (not the trolls or feds) simply can't evaluate evidence. They just don't have the capacity to do so. This is why 39 out of 40 get into it because of videos (and why they always try to share videos and articles instead of ever explaining anything); FE is a religious belief, not a scientific theory. You need to be persuaded, not convinced.
To a certain extent, I sympathize. If you can't determine truth for yourself, what are your options? It's not stupid, in that case, to go along with the crowd, or a trusted authority; they're far more likely to be right than a random guess. But they're fallible and, particularily these days, corrupt and spread misinformation.
So they FE types throw the baby out with the bathwater. If they're lying about one thing, they must be lying about everything, all the way to the shape of the planet and the physical systems that govern it.
And they're not entirely wrong, either. I can't prove who did 9/11, but I have no faith in the official explanation. They basically admitted to JFK and even the moon landing could very well be fabricated; it's just the kind of deceptive theater that they do.
But, at the end of the day, the FE crowd is making wild guesses. That I don't mind. What I mind is that they think they should be taken seriously when they literally don't understand anything they're talking about; they're just out to trip you up with obscure factoids and gotcha questions which, if you can't answer off the top of your head, supposedly prove FE.
It's really hard to look into FE due to the toxic attitudes and bombastic assertions made by many FE's. I'm 100% supportive of questioning everything, but making claims as if they were fact and ridiculing anyone who questions it does not lead to constructive research. The name-calling is so juvenile that it is hard to take either side seriously.
There are exceptions to this toxic behavior, but it's rare. It seems like the same cult-like behavior that afflicts covidians has also taken hold of many FE's. They saw their YouTube teachers talk shit about everyone, so they do the same.
They have some great questions, and even some great evidence. They need to remember that what they are working with is a theory, and it is okay to be wrong about something and go back to the drawing board.