A bit late, but in regards to you “earth rotating so fast” question, one day is 24 hours. The earth rotates once in that time. If we wanna be precise it’s actually like 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds and that’s why we do the leap year shit. Spinning once a day is like 0.0007 RPM, a very small and hard to perceive amount.
Rotational speed at the equator is 27.7 KM per minute, and all objects on the earth have the same kinetic energy , including the at atmosphere.
To put it another way, if you’re in a train going 100 mph and you jump up, you aren’t instantly slammed into the rear of the train car and killed, you too are going 100 mph even though you’re able to sip your drink and munch on some chips. A drone flying straight up is still in the atmosphere travelling east-west and with Newton’s third law taken into account, since no outside force is acting on the drone to slow it down it goes the same direction it was originally heading aided by the atmosphere it’s in.
We have to make a few assumptions here and there’s a good chance we’re wrong.
Assuming the drone gets no input to keep it straight up, well you may be able to prove that. Turning the controller off and letting the drone sit there flying on its own for example. But to assume no wind at all? Even in a calm situation you’ll find there’s actually air movement. Figuring out how the clouds should move is complicated due to the size of the planet and the sheer number of variables involved. Complex weather systems are well, complex and not only would I most likely not do it justice trying to simplify it, we’ll be here quite a while setting up the particulars of the variables that change very rapidly. Amount of sunlight , reflection off water, absorbing and reflection of heat from the sun on black tilled farmland, upper air currents, hell that’s just a short list that doesn’t even scrape the surface of how many factors are at play. So with your permission, I’ll leave the clouds movement for now?
We’ll stick with the drone. Yes, I agree with you that the circumference of the orbit of the drone is larger than the circumference of the earth at ground level. While the drone is hovering 2 miles up, it’s still being pushed upon by the rotating atmosphere. Until you leave the atmosphere you’re still being pushed by it. This is a hard example to nail down details on as the higher you go up the lower the air pressure but you started off with X kinetic energy at ground level and have moved into a lower air pressure which will have less resistance to your drone relative to the air resistance at ground level. The air isn’t like still water in a swimming pool, it’s a turbulent gas mixture that’s quite hard to visualize moving the way it actually does and describing it is harder. Remember the movie twister where they put all those little sensors into the tornado to map it and show it on the computer screen? If you could do something like that with the earths atmosphere and show it to someone you could describe the events going on. The upper atmosphere can already be moving at higher speeds relative to you at ground level and without measurements of both the ground air speed and the speed at the drone height, the answer ends up being “we it could be _____”.
Do you have any experiments showing a drone was set to fly up , do only vertical force and no lateral correction and flew there for an hour and then landed hundreds of miles away to present?
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, works been crazy lately. Enough to make a guy start looking at new jobs and I didn’t wanna do much online and take anything out on someone who doesn’t deserve it.
The current model we have has earth rotating around the sun while also flying (for lack of better terms in simple form) “forward” with the sun as the whole galaxy is also moving through space. Kinda like a gyroscope spinning on different axis, we’re under multiple forces and moving in multiple directions simultaneously. This presents a large headache for doing accurate math, not that it’s impossible, it’s just complicated.
Back to your proposed drone in an isolated column thought experiment. Should we take the air movement issue away, place it inside a column with no outside air movement getting in, and have a drone that flys perfectly level, we should indeed have a drone that hits the side of the column after a period of time goes by. If it doesn’t, well then we need to figure out why. Did we miss a variable? Is a calculation wrong? Thought experiments are great but then we get to what worked in theory doesn’t work in real life when all factors are at play.
As for the atmosphere dissipating into the vacuum of space, I believe we are losing bits of it all the time, with some being replaced by bits of star dust and meteorites etc coming into the atmosphere as we move through space. Space isn’t as empty and clear as people think there’s lot of dust and crap up there.
I give credence to the globe model as it works for transportation(shipping and air travel), fits up with the shadows seen on the moon, and the logic that in a 3D environment everything is sucked down to the center of the greatest mass as all objects are pulled together gets gravity to work everywhere on the globe pretty much the same(areas with slightly less strong gravitational pull being the exception.)
The flat earth models honestly seem so silly with their need for a firmament or an ice wall. We know meteors and meteorites are real things. People on the internet love to say space is fake and gay but if it’s all fake and there’s a firmament how’d that big rock land in the middle of a field? I don’t think volcanos are throwing them everywhere and I don’t think it’s a psyop where they’re dropping them out of the planes doing Chem trails.
And ice wall around the entire world also sounds ridiculous on its face. All it takes for the oceans to drain is one break in it anywhere? Any mad billionaire could send a submarine to drill a hole in it and drain the oceans and laugh as the world burns? Where’s the water going to go?
How is the firmament not broken either? You can’t leave anything outside without it getting sun bleached, damaged and cracked or broken after enough time.
The christ-cuck NPC’s on here seem to love the idea that we live in a 6000 year old snow globe made by Daddy Sky Wizard but anyone who starts to look at their claims finds more holes than a piece of Swiss cheese that wandered onto the set of a blind gangbang. I’m sure you’ve seen the picture showing up close and on the surface of a basketball with things set to our size and perspective it shows the basketball being flat. We’re so close to the surface of an absolutely massive ball of rock compared to our size that we can’t see enough details to see the full picture.
A bit late, but in regards to you “earth rotating so fast” question, one day is 24 hours. The earth rotates once in that time. If we wanna be precise it’s actually like 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds and that’s why we do the leap year shit. Spinning once a day is like 0.0007 RPM, a very small and hard to perceive amount. Rotational speed at the equator is 27.7 KM per minute, and all objects on the earth have the same kinetic energy , including the at atmosphere. To put it another way, if you’re in a train going 100 mph and you jump up, you aren’t instantly slammed into the rear of the train car and killed, you too are going 100 mph even though you’re able to sip your drink and munch on some chips. A drone flying straight up is still in the atmosphere travelling east-west and with Newton’s third law taken into account, since no outside force is acting on the drone to slow it down it goes the same direction it was originally heading aided by the atmosphere it’s in.
We have to make a few assumptions here and there’s a good chance we’re wrong. Assuming the drone gets no input to keep it straight up, well you may be able to prove that. Turning the controller off and letting the drone sit there flying on its own for example. But to assume no wind at all? Even in a calm situation you’ll find there’s actually air movement. Figuring out how the clouds should move is complicated due to the size of the planet and the sheer number of variables involved. Complex weather systems are well, complex and not only would I most likely not do it justice trying to simplify it, we’ll be here quite a while setting up the particulars of the variables that change very rapidly. Amount of sunlight , reflection off water, absorbing and reflection of heat from the sun on black tilled farmland, upper air currents, hell that’s just a short list that doesn’t even scrape the surface of how many factors are at play. So with your permission, I’ll leave the clouds movement for now? We’ll stick with the drone. Yes, I agree with you that the circumference of the orbit of the drone is larger than the circumference of the earth at ground level. While the drone is hovering 2 miles up, it’s still being pushed upon by the rotating atmosphere. Until you leave the atmosphere you’re still being pushed by it. This is a hard example to nail down details on as the higher you go up the lower the air pressure but you started off with X kinetic energy at ground level and have moved into a lower air pressure which will have less resistance to your drone relative to the air resistance at ground level. The air isn’t like still water in a swimming pool, it’s a turbulent gas mixture that’s quite hard to visualize moving the way it actually does and describing it is harder. Remember the movie twister where they put all those little sensors into the tornado to map it and show it on the computer screen? If you could do something like that with the earths atmosphere and show it to someone you could describe the events going on. The upper atmosphere can already be moving at higher speeds relative to you at ground level and without measurements of both the ground air speed and the speed at the drone height, the answer ends up being “we it could be _____”. Do you have any experiments showing a drone was set to fly up , do only vertical force and no lateral correction and flew there for an hour and then landed hundreds of miles away to present?
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, works been crazy lately. Enough to make a guy start looking at new jobs and I didn’t wanna do much online and take anything out on someone who doesn’t deserve it. The current model we have has earth rotating around the sun while also flying (for lack of better terms in simple form) “forward” with the sun as the whole galaxy is also moving through space. Kinda like a gyroscope spinning on different axis, we’re under multiple forces and moving in multiple directions simultaneously. This presents a large headache for doing accurate math, not that it’s impossible, it’s just complicated. Back to your proposed drone in an isolated column thought experiment. Should we take the air movement issue away, place it inside a column with no outside air movement getting in, and have a drone that flys perfectly level, we should indeed have a drone that hits the side of the column after a period of time goes by. If it doesn’t, well then we need to figure out why. Did we miss a variable? Is a calculation wrong? Thought experiments are great but then we get to what worked in theory doesn’t work in real life when all factors are at play. As for the atmosphere dissipating into the vacuum of space, I believe we are losing bits of it all the time, with some being replaced by bits of star dust and meteorites etc coming into the atmosphere as we move through space. Space isn’t as empty and clear as people think there’s lot of dust and crap up there. I give credence to the globe model as it works for transportation(shipping and air travel), fits up with the shadows seen on the moon, and the logic that in a 3D environment everything is sucked down to the center of the greatest mass as all objects are pulled together gets gravity to work everywhere on the globe pretty much the same(areas with slightly less strong gravitational pull being the exception.) The flat earth models honestly seem so silly with their need for a firmament or an ice wall. We know meteors and meteorites are real things. People on the internet love to say space is fake and gay but if it’s all fake and there’s a firmament how’d that big rock land in the middle of a field? I don’t think volcanos are throwing them everywhere and I don’t think it’s a psyop where they’re dropping them out of the planes doing Chem trails. And ice wall around the entire world also sounds ridiculous on its face. All it takes for the oceans to drain is one break in it anywhere? Any mad billionaire could send a submarine to drill a hole in it and drain the oceans and laugh as the world burns? Where’s the water going to go? How is the firmament not broken either? You can’t leave anything outside without it getting sun bleached, damaged and cracked or broken after enough time. The christ-cuck NPC’s on here seem to love the idea that we live in a 6000 year old snow globe made by Daddy Sky Wizard but anyone who starts to look at their claims finds more holes than a piece of Swiss cheese that wandered onto the set of a blind gangbang. I’m sure you’ve seen the picture showing up close and on the surface of a basketball with things set to our size and perspective it shows the basketball being flat. We’re so close to the surface of an absolutely massive ball of rock compared to our size that we can’t see enough details to see the full picture.